It's ok to wait a season, or a half a season, but not really nice to just sell it off right away. Give it a couple of chances at the track, if you don't think you can get the horse to win or be constant, it's ok to sell it. Just give it a chance first. Btw, your record is VERY nice, I wouldn't call that a bad record at all...or even a mediocre one. I'd call it a very good record. My own record stands at about 10% wins average for the last three years.Ronnie Dee wrote:I will make sure that I put a note on any horse that I get in this give-away to remind myself not to place the horse on the sales page next season.Amanda Saunders wrote:That's called Pinhooking, and it's usually not a very polite thing to do when you're given a gift.
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By the way, I recently acquired and retired Sociable. You may not remember Sociable but I really like her pedigree and she retired as a winner (rather than a maiden). I have recently bred Sociable to Storm A Fortress producing the colt Social Storm.Becca Banner wrote:Thats actually pretty good. These are the stats from my first year:
Year 11: 8 : 0 - 0 - 0 Win-0.0% OTB-0.0%
And these are my stats from last year:
Year 18: 162 : 22 - 19 - 16 Win-13.6% OTB-35.2%
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Just as a word to clarify, I don't think this is necessarily the mentality of all SIM players. This isn't to imply that one mentality is right and another wrote, as there are valid points both ways, but some of us don't really care what you do with a horse we give you afterwards, other than to do what's best for you.Amanda Saunders wrote:That's called Pinhooking, and it's usually not a very polite thing to do when you're given a gift.Ronnie Dee wrote: I am a new player who seems to be reasonably good at buying and re-selling horses but not that great at training horses (Win-16.0% OTB-34.0%). Would you be offended if one of your give-aways is resold next season?
A horse is, in the most basic of terms, an asset. Maybe that asset is most valuable to you if you hold on to the horse and race it, but maybe that asset is most valuable to you if you buy low and sell high. In real life, we call it pinhooking (horse racing) or day trading (Wall Street), and plenty of other things. Just like people have very different opinions on day traders, people have very different opinions on pinhooking. Either way, it was pinhooking that adjusted price levels on the Sales Page to where they are now after a long run when horses were sold VERY cheaply just because nobody had thought to drive up the price. The Steward eventually struck a balance that limits the transactions (specifically sales page purchases; sales are not capped) you can perform in a 24-hour period and sets the "turnaround time" on a newly acquired horse to at least 48 hours. Is large scale pinhooking still possible in the SIM structure as it is now? Yes, but not as much as it once was, and it hasn't really changed anyone's opinions on whether it's appropriate or not.
So I guess the message is just this: if you care about not stepping on toes, take a minute to ask people what their preferences are in regards to pinhooking. Some will tell you that they'd rather you not, some will tell you they don't give a hoot and if you get a horse below market value and sell it at or above fair market value, more power to you. It's all about knowing the preference of the person sending you the horse.
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I would LOVE if someone would try pinhooking the way it's usually done in real life: buying weanlings and yearlings with the intention of selling them at a profit as two year olds. The current market probably wouldn't support it so well but it might be something to look into at some point.
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If someone was going to try this, they might start by buying the 6 Cuvee foals on the Sales page. The stud fee for Cuvee is currently $7,500 and each foal is priced at only $7,500 by Stephen Skaggs who also owns Cuvee. Stephen Skaggs seems to be betting heavily on Cuvee as he currently owns 31 of the 53 Cuvee foals. This is only the fourth group of Cuvee foals.Ara Davies wrote:I would LOVE if someone would try pinhooking the way it's usually done in real life: buying weanlings and yearlings with the intention of selling them at a profit as two year olds. The current market probably wouldn't support it so well but it might be something to look into at some point.
Full Discloser/Bias: I recently acquired a lightly raced maiden 3 year old Cuvee filly. She really surprised me by working 2 furlongs in 22.92 so possibly the Cuvee offspring will be late bloomers.
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Hero Morgan
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Bennie and the Jets
SC AW Classic (twice) and Pegasus Winner
Mage
Versatile (AR/DR/TR and AM/DM/TM) RL stallion
Hero Morgan
5 furlong specialist extraordinaire!
Bennie and the Jets
SC AW Classic (twice) and Pegasus Winner
Mage
Versatile (AR/DR/TR and AM/DM/TM) RL stallion
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I need help with game time. Last night there was an auction that was scheduled to end at 9PM Pacific which is 12PM in the East where I'm at. Apparently the game has not adjusted for DST and the game was registering 8PM on all forum messages. So the auction ended at 8PM game time (which was the correct thing to do because this was a real time vs game time deadline).
This wonderful giveaway is for 6PM game time does that mean it will be at 7PM Pacific and 10PM Eastern? I was going to start looking at 9PM Eastern and I guess that's better than the other way of starting to look at 10 and finding it already took place. This is a nice opportunity and I don't want to miss it.
Thanks!!!
Keith
This wonderful giveaway is for 6PM game time does that mean it will be at 7PM Pacific and 10PM Eastern? I was going to start looking at 9PM Eastern and I guess that's better than the other way of starting to look at 10 and finding it already took place. This is a nice opportunity and I don't want to miss it.
Thanks!!!
Keith
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Game Time is Pacific Time. 6pm Game Time is 6pm Pacific...which is 9pm Eastern. I'm actually Eastern time, but it's easier to work with the game then go on my own schedule.
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Unfortunately I don't have control over the forum settings - you can make the forum time any time you want. But, whenever it's DST, you have to go in and manually adjust it. Sad!
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I saw that and I wish you luck with her as a broodmare, there is no reason she won't make a fine one I've had success with crossing her mum with Silver Charm is that helps any future breeding decisions you might make. I didn't really want to sell her but I was in a bit of a bind at the time and reasoned that I still have two of her half sisters and her mum.Ronnie Dee wrote:By the way, I recently acquired and retired Sociable. You may not remember Sociable but I really like her pedigree and she retired as a winner (rather than a maiden). I have recently bred Sociable to Storm A Fortress producing the colt Social Storm.Becca Banner wrote:Thats actually pretty good. These are the stats from my first year:
Year 11: 8 : 0 - 0 - 0 Win-0.0% OTB-0.0%
And these are my stats from last year:
Year 18: 162 : 22 - 19 - 16 Win-13.6% OTB-35.2%
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Ok Ok, you twist my arm, next season send me a yearling of yoursAra Davies wrote:I would LOVE if someone would try pinhooking the way it's usually done in real life: buying weanlings and yearlings with the intention of selling them at a profit as two year olds. The current market probably wouldn't support it so well but it might be something to look into at some point.
and I'll wait til it turns 2 to sell it
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