Stewardbreds - Old School Players Vs the New School

[Mr. Lord Rich]

This continues to blow my mind.

These types of threads pop up at least once or twice a year.

They are like stewardbreds are too expensive, I can never afford one
or
its not fair, the rich get all the stewardbreds and us poor people never get one.
or
I don't have any good horses, the sim sucks, why do I even try

Then we have a steward auction and with all these new rules in place, players are restricted to the number of stewardbreds they can own.
This has had a positive effect on the sim as it spreads out the stewardbreds among a larger group of simsters.

but what I continue to see more and more every season......
"just got this stewardbred.....galloped stakes, accepting offers."
???WHAT?????

Now I know its not all of you new players, but there are a lot of fairly new players that regularly practice this strategy.
I'm going to give many of you a little secret right now.

The reason some of us are rich is because we keep our stewardbreds!!!
The reason we continue to be rich is because we buy your stewardbreds.

What do you plan to do with the 1-2 million profit you might make off a pinhook?
blow it on breeding? As you know through many threads in the sim, we can not breed as well as the steward.
Most of the time that profit you made will be * away on something else not as nice as what you purchased in the steward auction.

On that note, if anyone is unhappy with one of their stewardbreds and wants to sell one of the better horses in their barn, send me a message and if it is what i'm looking for I will make you a more than reasonable offer.

Good Luck this season. 2 more auctions to go =)

[Keith Maidlow]

I have 17 steward breds of various ages, I don't have a big turnover of auction purchases but dabble once in awhile.

Sometimes something happens that causes me to sell one, like today's auction.

Please let me know if this has happened to you? Em already know and is fixing but I'm trying to figure out why it has happened to me twice.

I wound up getting two under bids. One is a dirt router, Blue Jay who is extremely well bred but "only" galloped stakes and cost a bit much. The other is a dirt miler, Bred for Success who is also well bred and galloped stakes. I have an under bidding strategy that sometimes gets me a horse that I really don't want, like Bred for Success.

Here is my dilemma: The horses cost me $4,000,004 and $1,500,009=$5,500,013...I had $4.8 million and change. I now have a negative balance of $611,551 and cannot ship, vet, etc. (shipping is important). I have some feelers out but if interested in one or the other let me know?

Has this ever happened to you (might be stealing your thread Pete)?

[Mr. Lord Rich]

yes please don't steal my thread with the negative money scenario. We can create a new thread to discuss that.

But to answer your question, no it has never happened to me and never will. I always make sure I have enough money in my account to run the day to day operations in my barn and would never bid or buy anything that put me within 1 million of going negative.

[Rochelle Bos]

Keith I’ve heard a couple people say they went into the negative this auction, I didn’t think that was possible! You’d thing one of the underbids would have just moved to the next person if you didn’t have the funds. Seems odd!

Anyway, back to new players pinhooking: I almost pinhooked my underbid filly because I already have a stakes TR filly to run, and the horse I want most from all three auctions (in my preferred division) is in the second. But I decided to keep and run her anyway, if I get the horse from the second auction I will be over the moon, if not, I still have a nice horse to run Y53! Because there is no guarantee that even if I sold her that I would win the other horse.

[Gigi Gofaster]

Wait, what? People had bids hold that they couldn’t fund???

[Rochelle Bos]

Wait, what? People had bids hold that they couldn’t fund???

It seems a couple people got horses as underbids that put them in the negatives.

[Carole Hanson]

Wait, what? People had bids hold that they couldn’t fund???

I was about to say this was currently happening to me in a foal auction but my bids have just been cancelled and the horse in question has had its bid taken down to $255,555 from just over $1.75 million

[The Steward]

We're aware of the underbid/negative problem and will hopefully have it fixed for the next sale. Clearly not what was intended!!

[Gwayne's World]

Maybe give the negative purchasers a set amount of time to square their account or confiscate them? To be resold in a new auction. Sorry Pete, for commenting on a negative purchase on your thread.

[Mr. Lord Rich]

Hijacked, thanks!

[Keith Maidlow]

Well that wasn't one of my brightest posts. Apologies.

[Glenn Escobar]

Allow me to get a bag of popcorn while this little hornets nest sorts itself out.

[Ronnie Dee]

Hijacked, thanks!

Returning to the thread focus:
If I was a "new school player" and ended up with a SB dirt router colt, I would NOT GALLOP the colt and then sell the colt for a significant profit. Essentially, I would be betting on the colt being a stakes galloper because this is highly likely. By not galloping before selling, there would be a number of buyers with big bankrolls (and SB slots open) who would be willing to pay an excessive premium for the very slim chance that they get extremely lucky and end up with a SB freak.

Of course, with the large cash infusion, the new school player could then purchase a number of moderately price Vella-bred stakes gallopers.

[Keith Maidlow]

A few thoughts on Pete's original post...
There were 123 different players who got horses in this auction, about 12% of registered players. There were 91 horses that sold for less than $1 million which never happened in the old variety auctions. Which means Stewards are not outside the buying power of some of the relatively new players. On the other hand, there seem to be more freaks than ever before and stakes horse seem less important, we are almost disappointed if our horse doesn't gallop freak. Also, if I have a bankroll of $1 million, get a horse for $500K and sell it for $2 million, I now have $2.5 million. For a new player that's a big jump. Lastly, how many Steward breds make back their selling price? It's possible the veteran play will make significantly more than the new player on the track or in the shed but...

Veterans see more fun play and long term profit and the new player sees instant gratification.

[Danny Derby]

Hijacked, thanks!

Returning to the thread focus:
If I was a "new school player" and ended up with a SB dirt router colt, I would NOT GALLOP the colt and then sell the colt for a significant profit. Essentially, I would be betting on the colt being a stakes galloper because this is highly likely. By not galloping before selling, there would be a number of buyers with big bankrolls (and SB slots open) who would be willing to pay an excessive premium for the very slim chance that they get extremely lucky and end up with a SB freak.

Of course, with the large cash infusion, the new school player could then purchase a number of moderately price Vella-bred stakes gallopers.

And I wouldn't be interested in buying unless the horse had a note, in which case the "new school player" would be better off holding on to it.