If I had one wish, it would be that the comments would have adjusted without the need to gallop the horse, because the stud book is just going to be a mess as the stats are now a mix of apples and oranges. I'm a big fan of information, and I think the younger stallions are going to get penalized, as they won't have many freaks. I gallop yearlings and sometimes 2yos, but once my top horses are racing, I rarely re-gallop. So, if some of them should technically be stakes instead of freaks, that sire's stud book page won't reflect that fact.
I'm really hoping that this adjustment provides more information - but if the result is that instead of having freaks and stakes, we now have almost no freaks and a bigger pool of stakes, I don't know that it helps all that much (ie., are you a top stakes or a sad stakes?). I'm waiting and seeing on this one since it is only the first day of gallops - maybe other trainers will have more freaks in their mixer yearling crops.
Gallop Comments for Scientists
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Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
My initial instinct was to greener pasture all my Standardbreds that were productive or below. With this .4 shift, does that mean productive gallopers will be, well, productive?
As much fun as it is claiming stakes gallopers for 5k or under (I even have a freak I claimed for $5k), it makes zero sense.
For what it’s worth I re galloped all my STBs and didn’t notice any changes. That’s perfectly fine with me but I wouldn’t describe any of my horses as “freaky runners.”
As much fun as it is claiming stakes gallopers for 5k or under (I even have a freak I claimed for $5k), it makes zero sense.
For what it’s worth I re galloped all my STBs and didn’t notice any changes. That’s perfectly fine with me but I wouldn’t describe any of my horses as “freaky runners.”
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Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
We seem to be digressing from data people
But as to Laura's comment so I don't expect that now we're just going to have everything become stakes. A large number of my yearling stakes gallopers were downgraded to allowance, I also had allowances downgraded to productive, and productive to solid so these were across the board changes. So sure there will still be some range in ability at each gallop level but I'm guessing the existing "sad" stakes horses are now allowance horses, and the remaining stakes horses are horses that should actually be able to compete in stakes races with the remaining freaks being horses that will excel in stakes races. Time will tell.
But as to Laura's comment so I don't expect that now we're just going to have everything become stakes. A large number of my yearling stakes gallopers were downgraded to allowance, I also had allowances downgraded to productive, and productive to solid so these were across the board changes. So sure there will still be some range in ability at each gallop level but I'm guessing the existing "sad" stakes horses are now allowance horses, and the remaining stakes horses are horses that should actually be able to compete in stakes races with the remaining freaks being horses that will excel in stakes races. Time will tell.
Turf Miler studs
Hempstead
Nonego
Omnsicience
Paint Sprinter studs
Jersey
Lecythus*
Paint Mid studs
Corona Wagon Train*
Jacinth
Komati*
Livewires Turnpike*
Discounts for stakes winners/producers
* = multidistance potential
Hempstead
Nonego
Omnsicience
Paint Sprinter studs
Jersey
Lecythus*
Paint Mid studs
Corona Wagon Train*
Jacinth
Komati*
Livewires Turnpike*
Discounts for stakes winners/producers
* = multidistance potential
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Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
My Arabians interesting. 1 Freak, 1 Stakes, both by Mighty Sandstorm
2.04% Different Career
38.78% Claimer
20.41% Solid
24.49% Productive
10.20% Allowance
2.04% Stakes
2.04% Freak
QH Routers:
5.88% Different Career
38.24% Claimer
11.76% Solid
35.29% Productive
8.82% Allowance
0.00% Stakes
0.00% Freak
I feel like without the change, I would have had a sad Stakes and a few more sad Allowance Quarter horses.
2.04% Different Career
38.78% Claimer
20.41% Solid
24.49% Productive
10.20% Allowance
2.04% Stakes
2.04% Freak
QH Routers:
5.88% Different Career
38.24% Claimer
11.76% Solid
35.29% Productive
8.82% Allowance
0.00% Stakes
0.00% Freak
I feel like without the change, I would have had a sad Stakes and a few more sad Allowance Quarter horses.
Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
Are you sure she is fully fit. Other than 3 widely spaced races she has had no other work in a SIM year + 4 weeks.Flizan Hambletonian wrote: ↑5 years ago This is my very first freak, whom I was very proud of. Look at her results. I havn't trained her this year, I´m afraid of the result... https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=963567
Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
Regardless of the gallop comment the horses will show you where they need to race. There will be "productive" productives and less than stellar freaks.Brad Searcy wrote: ↑5 years ago My initial instinct was to greener pasture all my Standardbreds that were productive or below. With this .4 shift, does that mean productive gallopers will be, well, productive?
As much fun as it is claiming stakes gallopers for 5k or under (I even have a freak I claimed for $5k), it makes zero sense.
For what it’s worth I re galloped all my STBs and didn’t notice any changes. That’s perfectly fine with me but I wouldn’t describe any of my horses as “freaky runners.”
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Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
161 Mixers spread out over breeds and distances...
1 Freak 0.6%
12 Stakes 7.5%
40 Allowance 24.8%
46 Productive 28.6%
34 Solid 21.1%
28 Claimers 17.4 %
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1 Freak 0.6%
12 Stakes 7.5%
40 Allowance 24.8%
46 Productive 28.6%
34 Solid 21.1%
28 Claimers 17.4 %
0 DCs
Re: Gallop Comments for Scientists
307 Mixers spread out over breeds and distances...
0 Freak
23 Stakes 7.5%
104 Allowance 33.9%
81 Productive 26.4%
50 Solid 16.3%
49 Claimer 15.9 %
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0 Freak
23 Stakes 7.5%
104 Allowance 33.9%
81 Productive 26.4%
50 Solid 16.3%
49 Claimer 15.9 %
0 DCs