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Tammy Stawicki
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It is hard to be a freak these days

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I only regallop horses actively racing when they are on a bit of a longer break. Recently did that with two of my mares that have been quite accomplished, Steward's Cup winning $900,000+ in earnings Acanthus and multiple graded stakes-winning $250,000+ in earnings as a young 3yo Carreta both have been downgraded from freak to stakes. Now admittedly I don't know if the change is due to the revamp of gallop comments or a decrease in ability at some point but both have won 90 speed figures this year so it seems you can have some pretty talented stakes gallopers these days. If they're stakes I can't wait to see what my one actual new cutoff freak can do.

Also please note this is not a complaint. I much prefer having stakes galloping superstars then stakes gallopers that can't break their maiden, which I had under the old cutoffs.
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Katie Stepanian
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Hopefully the gallop comments are a little bit truer. It would be nice to have stakes gallops being competitive.
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For me it seems my stakes are pretty much what my freaks used to be
They can be good and they can be bad hopefully this just means the freaks now will be mostly good
I even won a stakes with an allowance this year sothere is hope :D
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LOVE, LOVE, LOVE these gallop changes, my freaks are actual freaks (like this crazy thing)AND I have stakes actually being stakes!!
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Congrats Jo, very nice freaky filly :)
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I hope the gallop changes reflect what a Real freak is suppose to be doing..because I have freak after freak after freak in mix racing that couldn't catch my old, slightly over weight dog, Jaya in a 300 yard dash.

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Last year's Paint Champion Two Year Old Female is also stakes now, so I think you are right.
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Some breeds it’s truer and some it’s not. A freak SB pacer does NOT guarantee a really successful horse. I swear every other horse is a freak too. Very hard to even break a maiden in that freak filled division.
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Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 5 years ago Some breeds it’s truer and some it’s not. A freak SB pacer does NOT guarantee a really successful horse. I swear every other horse is a freak too. Very hard to even break a maiden in that freak filled division.
That fits what people were seeing when gallops opened. In paints and quarter horses it seemed almost all the 2yos had dropped from their yearling gallops and people were seeing very few stakes but standardbred owners were not really reporting any noticeable differences from years prior.
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all my freak mixers except 1 arabian 2yo downgraded to stakes but they are still competitive and freaks are now true freaks, loving the change, standardbreds excluded as they all stayed freaks
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Te Akau Downs wrote: 5 years ago all my freak mixers except 1 arabian 2yo downgraded to stakes but they are still competitive and freaks are now true freaks, loving the change, standardbreds excluded as they all stayed freaks
There was talk of there being another downgrade this break, if the first one didn't make enough of a difference (which it obviously didn't for standardbreds; while my true mixer (appy/paint/quarter) yearling gallop comments were much worse in Y51 than the previous few years and a bunch of regalloped older horses went down a comment level, my standardbred yearling comments came in with about the same freak and stakes percentages as previous years and no regalloped older horses dropped a level).

I'm not sure if I'm hoping for a standardbred downgrade, since I have a stallion retiring soon and the studbook gallop percentages would be skewed in favour of stallions who had foals on the ground pre-Y51. Though it would be nice to be able to tell a "Almost guaranteed stakeswinner" freak apart from the "Almost guaranteed to still be a maiden when he turns four" freaks.

I do hope we get told in advance so we don't just rage-GP everything when we end up with 1% freaks in our crops instead of 10%.
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Michael Looker wrote: 5 years ago
Te Akau Downs wrote: 5 years ago all my freak mixers except 1 arabian 2yo downgraded to stakes but they are still competitive and freaks are now true freaks, loving the change, standardbreds excluded as they all stayed freaks
There was talk of there being another downgrade this break, if the first one didn't make enough of a difference (which it obviously didn't for standardbreds; while my true mixer (appy/paint/quarter) yearling gallop comments were much worse in Y51 than the previous few years and a bunch of regalloped older horses went down a comment level, my standardbred yearling comments came in with about the same freak and stakes percentages as previous years and no regalloped older horses dropped a level).

I'm not sure if I'm hoping for a standardbred downgrade, since I have a stallion retiring soon and the studbook gallop percentages would be skewed in favour of stallions who had foals on the ground pre-Y51. Though it would be nice to be able to tell a "Almost guaranteed stakeswinner" freak apart from the "Almost guaranteed to still be a maiden when he turns four" freaks.

I do hope we get told in advance so we don't just rage-GP everything when we end up with 1% freaks in our crops instead of 10%.
There will be no downgrade/change this break. So you can rage GP all you want ;-)
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Easy fix, just don't rage GP... :D
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I'd honestly rather it be 1% freaks so when we do get one we can be super happy.
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Personally I like my rose colored glasses. 8-) ;)
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