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Claimed this mare last year. She was an allowance yearling/two year old and not re-galloped after until this season, though I suspect she didn't change until mid-year last season. She is now a stakes.

Of course, I had a gelding do that who had much less success when I tried to switch him out of claiming company. He is still a stakes galloper running in claimers to this day because he can't even hit the board without a claiming tag.
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Over the course of her galloping career this horse has improved from allowance to stakes (sometime between year 49 and 52) to freak (today, year 53).
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=959819
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Can we make it so we can still read our horse’s notes when they kick the bucket? And maybe still be able to see the mares’ BSA comments? ☺️
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Rochelle Zahacy wrote: 4 years ago Can we make it so we can still read our horse’s notes when they kick the bucket? And maybe still be able to see the mares’ BSA comments? ☺️
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Natasha Yar wrote: 4 years ago
Rochelle Zahacy wrote: 4 years ago Can we make it so we can still read our horse’s notes when they kick the bucket? And maybe still be able to see the mares’ BSA comments? ☺️
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https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=987569

trip out at this: literally -> claimer to stakes, not that it helped much on the racing front.
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Well although not currently racing, Gecko is an interesting example of this.
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=623308

He went from galloping Claimer to galloping Freak to then galloping Stakes. All within 2 sim years!

Pretty impressive!
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Article is up, heart still broken, but she should be here...

Far Fetched
Frankel x Seemed Unlikely (Old Dan)
Claimer to Freak
Change would have occurred: 53.9
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Yea see that is something I would NOT want to know! So sorry that happened!
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That almost happened to me... I gelded and gped a HTT turf miler, who jumped up after I GPed him but out of random luck, I BSed him in AJ and saw he was a Buy buy buy, rebought him and he was a stakes.

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=507799 that one.

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I'm sorry, Rochelle. What a rough lesson!
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I just picked up a Turf Router from D's Racing Stables Dispersal auction that improved.

His whole career he was a Stakes (Including late year 51), and I just got him for 43K, galloped him, and he is now a FREAK!
First Freak TR I have ever had! Hopefully the year long break hasn't hurt him to much!
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I've had a few horses that improved. Often only claimer-->solid, or allowance --> stakes. But I have some questions...

WHEN can a horse improve? Is it week 1 or 9 only? Or is it when it wins a race? Or when gelded? What year? Could you expect a 4 or 5 y old claimer to improve? When is it "safe" to dump a horse?
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Improvements happen at the following times:
Week 1
Week 8 Day 7 (after the day 6 results basically)
After gelding
After making their first start

I think a lot of horses improve during these changes but not enough to warrant a gallop change so it doesn’t seem like they have improved. It’s impossible to say when you should give up on a horse but definitely the better the pedigree the better the chances of improvement.
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Can be during or after their first start, i.e. the improvement might show up in the first race or the second.
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