Steward Breds

[Danny Derby]

Would be nice if this @#@#$%^$^ $10,000,000 thing was a late bloomer instead of Peak from the get go.

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1174620

[Joseph Depaulo]

Would be nice if this @#@#$%^$^ $10,000,000 thing was a late bloomer instead of Peak from the get go.

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1174620

Can i get golden utterus for 10 million ?

[Danny Derby]

Would be nice if this @#@#$%^$^ $10,000,000 thing was a late bloomer instead of Peak from the get go.

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1174620

Can i get golden utterus for 10 million ?

Yours for $10M if you want!

[Xander Zone]

Wait so you don’t want to buy DX off me fine I will keep her

[Gwen Morse]

Not an experienced player, but I have my own thoughts and the time to share them.

The subject seems to be controversial based on old forum posts, so we'll see how this question goes over. I saw in an earlier post the Steward said "NOTHING MAGICAL HAPPENS BECAUSE I PRESS THE BUTTON VS YOU PRESS THE BUTTON. I just know very specifically what I'm doing.". I interpreted that as the Steward just know which Mares pair best with which Stallions, but there is still the same randomness when she breeds as we would see when we breed.

What I've read in comments is that the Steward sees the stats of all the horses she breeds, but accepts the results of the random slider. It would make sense that she does this since she owns the site and doesn't race and she has felt obliged to keep breeding Stewies past the point they were actually "fun" for her in order to draw attention to underutilized bloodlines/keep bloodlines diverse. Setting the stats on the Steward-bred horses (instead of accepting what they get randomly) would make it even less fun for her.

There's already way too much forum rage over breeding horses she creates for bloodline diversity that end up "too bad" or "too good" compared to sim-bred horses. The forums would be on fire if she was statting the Stewie babies too.

In other words, there is no manipulation or screening out undesirable results. Is this accurate? Looking at some broodmare stats, it seems like this cannot be the case. There seems to be a significant decline in performance when a Player breeds that same Mare, even with the same Sire. This may already be super obvious, but was curious if this has been discussed and answered already.

I feel like there must be some sort of screening. I've never seen someone complaining that they paid a million+ sim bucks for a "different career" Stewie. I'm not sure I've even seen a post from someone who got a "productive" Stewie (any out there?). The Steward would need to be culling some horses. Looking at peoples' public gallop results, even players with the best bred foals get solids/claimers and different careers. They don't get many of them but it happens in every crop.

I find it very unlikely that mares bred both by the Steward and also bred by other people consistently do "worse" when other players use them. She can see the stats of any mare before she buys them, she can get them young if she wants them for the long term, she has unlimited funds to buy them. Every purchase is made with the intention of keeping the mare for life (separate from leasing). She only gets rid of purchased mares that disappoint her. If someone can get their hands on mares she's bred and sold off, they're already going to be a reject. The mare's breeding numbers aren't going to change, so really any player has the random chance in the slider of doing "better" than the Steward.

Still trying to find my way in this SIM and learning how to breed. It seems like a key predictor component in analyzing lineage would be performance of progeny.

For large groups of horses, yes. For any single horse (or potential pair), not really.

However, I'm wondering if I should throw out (or at least significantly discount) any Stewart Breds from the Progeny stats since there are/were different rules that were applied? Certainly a good sign that the Steward was willing to breed that Mare, but past performance does not guaranteed future performance seems to apply 10X with Steward Breds. Also, similarly a lightly bred Stallion can have hugely inflated stats based on 1 or 2 SBs. Would love the thoughts of the more experienced players.

One thing to keep in mind is the Steward has different motivations/intentions than you. She has a barn full of the best mares and she doesn't have to be "profitable" from year to year. The horses she breeds are status symbols to take sim cash out of the game. She doesn't have to win with them, she just needs the faith of players that whoever buys them _may potentially_ win.

With almost 60 years of race history in the game, she's partially breeding for nostalgia ("I remember all five generations of this mare's female family racing and winning championships") and for specialized genetics experiments ("Can I pass this particular combination of hidden stats down to another generation of horses?") and a little bit of leaving breadcrumbs for players ("New Sire So-and-So nicks A- with the best mares but has an extremely desirable spread of stats that will result in better foals than his nick rating would indicate so I'll breed to him to encourage players to take notice of him").

Also, not all those genetics experiments will necessarily be good for players. If she decides to code in weak-ankles-with-brilliant-speed traits into the game, she might breed to sires with those "genes" for a few sim years to help spread them around. If you try a similar breeding to one of hers, you could end up with both the bad ankles and a bad roll on the speed slider.

[Carole Hanson]

With all due respect to Em, I don’t think she really plans her breeding that carefully anymore, at least not for all her mares. Because she doesn’t have the time and probably can’t be bothered. Of course there are 20 or so mares (maybe less) that are special to her and she takes greater care with them, but I feel that at this point she sort of breeds randomly. Like ‘hey I haven’t bred to this stallion yet, ok send him this mare’ and ‘wait who is this mare? Whatever let’s just click a random sire-oh look! It’s a freak!’

[The Steward]

With all due respect to Em, I don’t think she really plans her breeding that carefully anymore, at least not for all her mares. Because she doesn’t have the time and probably can’t be bothered. Of course there are 20 or so mares (maybe less) that are special to her and she takes greater care with them, but I feel that at this point she sort of breeds randomly. Like ‘hey I haven’t bred to this stallion yet, ok send him this mare’ and ‘wait who is this mare? Whatever let’s just click a random sire-oh look! It’s a freak!’

It's somewhere in the middle. There are still the top 20 mares that are SUPER planned out for years in the future, and then there are the mares that are dutifully doing their job of making babies that I'm not obsessed with. But I still hypo every mare to 3-4 stallions to see how it looks (usually this means hypoing to their own son of sibling at LEAST once) before pulling the trigger, so it's not that random, just not an hour per mare or anything!

The horses I don't know are the ones on the track. "Oh man I'm getting that back? Sweet!" hahaha. I'm laughing but it's also super true.

[Laura Smith]

There was a DC Stewie.
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=744024
Jumped to alw eventually, iirc

[Nena Olson]

I had a HTT Steward bred once... he never improved.

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=353072

His name wasn't Empty Plate when I bought him LOL It was Hunger Games and I thought I was getting a superstar cus Hunger Games (the movie) had just come out. I was wrong.

[Randell Johnson]

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1037439
This Steward Bred, went from Claimer to Stakes.

[Gwen Morse]

This shows there's never a stupid question . DC Stewie sighting.