Steward-breds

[Kent Saunders]

I don't agree with Ronnie on this. Most folks want to keep the SB's and modify the rules, recap below....

250 is too many...need a limit of 2 or 3 per season....no naming....need another system for player leasing mares. I'm still of the opinion the Steward pays cash for the lease and then does a lease auction to race the newly created foals. As a side note to this I would count the foal lease against the 2-3 limit. This would give the folks that might not be able to afford to buy one outright the chance race one (maybe get a foal) for alot less $$ most likely

[Laura Smith]

Occasional auctions (once a year or more) of game created real life pedigreed horses to introduce new bloodlines and assuage everyone's desire to buy things

I see two issues with this, it first go against what many claim to be the function of Steward breds because New Players probably can't get a hold of them. Secondly, players will cry fowl if some of these turn out insanely good(looking at Lalor and mixer holiday studs). In a perfect world I like this idea but this isn't a perfect world.

I mean, we already do this when a RL colt dies. Hasn't resulted in any drama yet that I've seen (though I've admittedly been pretty out of the loop.) That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, I just would like to see it on a regular basis.

[Xander Zone]

My thoughts are this

A . Stew horses should stay with a limit of 3 per player also as of right now no new partnership can buy a steward bred that is not made prior to this topic going up for say 3 sim seasons and only when the partnership reaches say 1000 starts it can buy and only with the money in it no extra money being sent to it ,this would prove that the partnership was made i. The true purpose of them.

B. If a player wants to buy a pinhook above their 3 limit the steward bred must be ungalloped so the rating is unknown and there is a luxury tax on it say steward bred number 4 comes with a automatic deduction of 2 mill from the player ,stew bred number 5 comes with a 4 mill deduction.

C if the player is allowed to buy pinhooks they can not have sold off a steward bred they won of the same age to get below the luxury tax! So if you have won 3 stew bred and sold off 2 your number is still 3 if you go to buy a pinhook and the tax will be charged to you.

As for the steward and getting more mares I don’t really care how she does this it’s all fair that way to me.


Also I did not read anyone else’s ideas 5 pages way too much for me !!!

[Dave Trainer]

My thoughts are this

A . Stew horses should stay with a limit of 3 per player also as of right now no new partnership can buy a steward bred that is not made prior to this topic going up for say 3 sim seasons and only when the partnership reaches say 1000 starts it can buy and only with the money in it no extra money being sent to it ,this would prove that the partnership was made i. The true purpose of them.

B. If a player wants to buy a pinhook above their 3 limit the steward bred must be ungalloped so the rating is unknown and there is a luxury tax on it say steward bred number 4 comes with a automatic deduction of 2 mill from the player ,stew bred number 5 comes with a 4 mill deduction.

C if the player is allowed to buy pinhooks they can not have sold off a steward bred they won of the same age to get below the luxury tax! So if you have won 3 stew bred and sold off 2 your number is still 3 if you go to buy a pinhook and the tax will be charged to you.

As for the steward and getting more mares I don’t really care how she does this it’s all fair that way to me.


Also I did not read anyone else’s ideas 5 pages way too much for me !!!

A limit should be a limit. Otherwise it would be the same as it is now with the very rich players being able to buy six or seven. Partnerships shouldn't be allowed to own them unless they go towards each partners limit.

[Xander Zone]

Players can only buy if players sell ! And players only have so much money that is why I suggest the luxury tax .
Also why I suggest partnership see to be already made and not made for the sales and why I suggest that new partnerships can’t buy till year 3 or 1000 starts or what every rule u want .

Also another fun idea would be a secret Santa style auction no breeding thill you ha e bought it then boom u see what you got lol

Fun fact everyone knows I buy all the DS and DM I can but I am also broke every sim year with less then 100k after doing so so all I am saying is every player has a limit they can buy and say a year I had 6 of them it would have been a extra 12 mill in tax and I would never have been able to afford it for the extra 3 !

[Dylan Christensen]

Occasional auctions (once a year or more) of game created real life pedigreed horses to introduce new bloodlines and assuage everyone's desire to buy things

I see two issues with this, it first go against what many claim to be the function of Steward breds because New Players probably can't get a hold of them. Secondly, players will cry fowl if some of these turn out insanely good(looking at Lalor and mixer holiday studs). In a perfect world I like this idea but this isn't a perfect world.

I mean, we already do this when a RL colt dies. Hasn't resulted in any drama yet that I've seen (though I've admittedly been pretty out of the loop.) That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, I just would like to see it on a regular basis.

If they stay the super mediocre horses that get sold now I’m fine with it. My fear would be with more coming in that people demand they get better then a few get made that are too good and it devolves.

[Darcy McBride]

I personally have never had an issue with the Stewardbreds. I did have an issue with some of the shenanigans that were going on.

- I think 250 may be a bit much, maybe somewhere between 150-200? But, that would be the Steward's choice, and what she is comfortable with.
- I agree there should be a limit in place for how many SBs a person owns, whether individually or in a partnership. IF a partnership owns, each member of the partnership has the SB counted against their limit. Limit of 2 per crop. 3 yrs of age and under. No limits for 4 yrs old and above.
- I don't have an issue with the Steward paying cash to lease a mare. But agree the resulting foal or foals should be auctioned off, so people's heads don't fall off and roll down the hall. Or lease the mare for free, and the first foal be given to the mare's owner. This, of course, would require a 2 yr lease, so the Steward gets a foal to keep as well; the Steward's foal could be leased, perhaps, in a special auction, for her racing career.
-If Em enjoys naming the foals, perhaps notes could be added to each foal with her name request or suggestion. No one could see the name until the foal (or yearling or 2 yr old) is sold.
-Pinhooking: I believe a person has the right to keep or sell the SB they purchased. Again, any SB sold to another player from the original purchaser would count against the new purchaser's limit.
-I do not much care for the pre-auction purchasing that has happened in the past. I didn't even know it was a thing. Transparency will stop a lot of the drama, I believe.

*I'm not sure about selling SBs to partnerships. That was a large part of all the drama, as some folk were not following the spirit of the game and/or rules set into place. If SBs continue, I believe the limits will need to be enforced, and that may be a headache; I'm not sure how hard that would be to code. Could just be easier to not allow Partnerships to purchase or obtain SBs under the age of 4.

Ultimately, it's up to The Steward and her people to decide. If SBs continue on, I'm fine with it. If they do not, I'm fine with that as well, but it would be a bit sad. Just my 2 cents worth.

[Dave Trainer]

Players can only buy if players sell ! And players only have so much money that is why I suggest the luxury tax .
Also why I suggest partnership see to be already made and not made for the sales and why I suggest that new partnerships can’t buy till year 3 or 1000 starts or what every rule u want .

Also another fun idea would be a secret Santa style auction no breeding thill you ha e bought it then boom u see what you got lol

Fun fact everyone knows I buy all the DS and DM I can but I am also broke every sim year with less then 100k after doing so so all I am saying is every player has a limit they can buy and say a year I had 6 of them it would have been a extra 12 mill in tax and I would never have been able to afford it for the extra 3 !

You wouldn't be saying that if you didn't already have a partnership though. Some players have plenty of money, you can see that from the top 50 list.

[Dylan Christensen]

Okay so I've been under the impression for years that Steward-breds are THE WORST THING EVER and it is NOT FAIR and DRAMA X INFINITY.

If you decide to continue breeding horses, I suggest that you randomly give these horses to New and Junior players (with a maximum of 1 per player per crop). After this giveaway, if any SBs remain, you can give them away as prizes in your various contests that you hold (with a maximum of 1 per player per crop). Of course,a number of Simsters will complain that this is NOT FAIR but there will be considerably less DRAMA than with your auctions.

Yes! Let’s just give every new player a super good horse that they have no clue what to do with! Honestly, why not just start them with $10 million?

[The Harlequins]

It seems that Steward Bred horses will be remaining due to peer pressure.

If that is going to be the case, would it be a good idea for Homebred horses getting a bonus for winning grade 1 races.?

[Dylan Christensen]

It seems that Steward Bred horses will be remaining due to peer pressure.

If that is going to be the case, would it be a good idea for Homebred horses getting a bonus for winning grade 1 races.?

They already do, breeder awards!

[Andrew Chillin]

Are there stud horses named drama and infinity ?if so are they are good cross? Should be

[Maria Schreuder]

Okay so I've been under the impression for years that Steward-breds are THE WORST THING EVER and it is NOT FAIR and DRAMA X INFINITY.

If you decide to continue breeding horses, I suggest that you randomly give these horses to New and Junior players (with a maximum of 1 per player per crop). After this giveaway, if any SBs remain, you can give them away as prizes in your various contests that you hold (with a maximum of 1 per player per crop). Of course,a number of Simsters will complain that this is NOT FAIR but there will be considerably less DRAMA than with your auctions.

Yes! Let’s just give every new player a super good horse that they have no clue what to do with! Honestly, why not just start them with $10 million?

Being new this sounds like a great idea!

Seriously though I realize I'll have to put in a lot of graft and time to get anywhere. I do feel that established players should reap some reward for their efforts, but I also feel that they are already getting this when breeding themselves due to being able to afford better using better stock. But the random factor also leaves the chance for someone else to finally get a big break - while the Stewardbred auctions are mostly just about bucks. To someone just dipping their toe in what is already a very complicated game, it seems very much intimidating.

Also, I've been wondering about the practicality of reducing the amount of game provided stakes (free money) and having players sponsor more stakes races to help solve the economy problem.

[The Harlequins]

1 man or wowan as a opinion 2 men or women have views that may differ 3 can have a majority view 4 chaos ensues .

Do your thing Em.

[Rochelle Bos]

- Giving away stewardbreds doesn’t solve getting money out of the game.
- If they were gifted or prized out, division specialists will likely just sell the ones they win that aren’t in their division. New players will also probably get offers for millions to buy their gifted stewie, so giving them money is basically the same thing.
- People will complain they “weren’t there for” or “didn’t see” the contest.