What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
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- Kris Bobby
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
I no longer participate in voting for the awards. To me, the only award that matters is the one that doesn't get voted on by the community.
I can't understand the emotions that the simmy voting elicits (ie Em says Laura leads again and it seems to bring about anger or confusion).
Being that I don't care and I don't vote, I'd prefer Lucas and Cleo be on the ballot and please withdraw my name. They both had better years this year and most others. Thank you for including me but I would prefer not to be considered now or in the future.
I hope Year 58 is good to all.
I can't understand the emotions that the simmy voting elicits (ie Em says Laura leads again and it seems to bring about anger or confusion).
Being that I don't care and I don't vote, I'd prefer Lucas and Cleo be on the ballot and please withdraw my name. They both had better years this year and most others. Thank you for including me but I would prefer not to be considered now or in the future.
I hope Year 58 is good to all.
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- Mr. Lord Rich
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
Please withdraw my name in place of Carole Hanson.
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- Andrew Chillin
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
10/10David Howard wrote: ↑3 years ago This meme is doing the rounds and it seems apt.
Me showing my wife my SIMMY when she returns from working nights at the hospital:
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- Randall Allen
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
I didn't mean for my comments about a popularity contest to start a sim riot! The truth is your accomplishments have little to do with the actual vote.
I am just the most overlooked player in the history of mixers and the Sim, I'm not bitter and love the game, but want to give two real life examples.
This year alone: I have 9 grade 1 mixer wins, 130 mixer stakes wins and hundreds upon hundreds of regular mixer wins. I will probably not even be in the top 3 in voting...
Another example the Hall of Fame: I am just shy of 13,000 wins, have won 1,288 stakes races, 78 grade 1 races and lifetime earnings of over $250,000,000. I have never been on that ballot. I have more stakes wins than some of the Hall of Fame people have regular wins.
I am just the most overlooked player in the history of mixers and the Sim, I'm not bitter and love the game, but want to give two real life examples.
This year alone: I have 9 grade 1 mixer wins, 130 mixer stakes wins and hundreds upon hundreds of regular mixer wins. I will probably not even be in the top 3 in voting...
Another example the Hall of Fame: I am just shy of 13,000 wins, have won 1,288 stakes races, 78 grade 1 races and lifetime earnings of over $250,000,000. I have never been on that ballot. I have more stakes wins than some of the Hall of Fame people have regular wins.
- Andrew Chillin
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- The Harlequins
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
Probably don't know his true name
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- Andrew Chillin
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
the guy thats broke......the ..guy thats gobby,,,the,,, the
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- Keith Maidlow
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
I don't vote anymore either but...
As a small stable owner, my own goals are much different than starts, wins, earnings or G1s (although all but starts are personally important 'cause that's how one makes money). I never show up on the leader board when those stats are the search criteria. But I do show up on average earnings and, in good years, win %. So I judge good training first by average earnings per start, then win % and then I look at G1s.
For thoroughbreds only:
Cleo Patra...$69K per start...41% wins...15 G1s...$7.4 million earnings...107 starts
Carole Hanson...$59.9K per start...28% wins...12 G1s...$6.4 million earnings...107 starts
Kris Bobby...$46.9K per start...48.1% wins...10 G1s...$6.2 million earnings...133 starts
Danny Derby...$49.4K per start...26.5% wins...26 G1s...$17.9 million earnings...362 starts
Danny had 96 total wins, 54 were stakes and 26 G1s (362 starts), next were LD with 21 G1s (5.3 X as many starts), LF with 20 G1s (6.8 X as many starts), PV 20 G1s (3.9 X as many starts).
I not sure what Danny's playing style is, maybe he breeds 2000 horses and gets rid of anything that is less than stakes. Maybe the others breed 2000 and race them all. But in the end, as per my criteria and my playing style, Danny's stats are impressive. I'm not necessarily a Danny fan and in all the big races I want to finish in front of his horses with mine, but I cannot deny he gets excellent results (along with the other three I mentioned above). Certainly big stables have to work hard for their results too, but we little stables need to shine and get recognized sometimes.
As a small stable owner, my own goals are much different than starts, wins, earnings or G1s (although all but starts are personally important 'cause that's how one makes money). I never show up on the leader board when those stats are the search criteria. But I do show up on average earnings and, in good years, win %. So I judge good training first by average earnings per start, then win % and then I look at G1s.
For thoroughbreds only:
Cleo Patra...$69K per start...41% wins...15 G1s...$7.4 million earnings...107 starts
Carole Hanson...$59.9K per start...28% wins...12 G1s...$6.4 million earnings...107 starts
Kris Bobby...$46.9K per start...48.1% wins...10 G1s...$6.2 million earnings...133 starts
Danny Derby...$49.4K per start...26.5% wins...26 G1s...$17.9 million earnings...362 starts
Danny had 96 total wins, 54 were stakes and 26 G1s (362 starts), next were LD with 21 G1s (5.3 X as many starts), LF with 20 G1s (6.8 X as many starts), PV 20 G1s (3.9 X as many starts).
I not sure what Danny's playing style is, maybe he breeds 2000 horses and gets rid of anything that is less than stakes. Maybe the others breed 2000 and race them all. But in the end, as per my criteria and my playing style, Danny's stats are impressive. I'm not necessarily a Danny fan and in all the big races I want to finish in front of his horses with mine, but I cannot deny he gets excellent results (along with the other three I mentioned above). Certainly big stables have to work hard for their results too, but we little stables need to shine and get recognized sometimes.
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- Kelly Haggerty
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
I've been biting my tongue. At least this year's new players are up against other ACTUAL new players. Can we just gallop and have a happy Festivus now?
- Andrew Chillin
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
Bold of you to say that. Frank accused me, once, of being a repeat player too.
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Re: What’s the Trainer of the Year criteria?
Correct Andrew
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