Best crappy mare?
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Best crappy mare?
I sometimes see cases of very successful (i.e. multimillionaire) racing fillies retire and get a "star" BSA comment, though they seem to produce just fine anyway... also seen fantastic race mares go on to only produce foals who are not even a little bit like their dams (Love Won't Roam comes to mind, great runner whose production record enabled me to pick up two of her foals and subsequently cull them both from my own barn; I've seen many other similar examples), though I have no idea what BSA such mares had.
This got me thinking a bit, so, I'm curious to see some examples of really, really nice runners whose BSA comment is comparatively crap - i.e. formidable or lower (not hens who failed to live up to their comments, or two-time listed stakes winners who retired meh, or millionaires who are "only" star - I mean absolute is-this-uterus-even-attached-to-this-runner type mares) . Do unpredictable millionaire mares exist?
Note, this is not to rag on any horses, I have great respect for pretty runners regardless of their mothering abilities (or do rag on your own frustrating mares, if you like, I won't stop you ) I'm just really curious to see how common it is for champ mares to be less than hen/star, my assumption was that runs great=BSAs great but I hear that is not the case!
This got me thinking a bit, so, I'm curious to see some examples of really, really nice runners whose BSA comment is comparatively crap - i.e. formidable or lower (not hens who failed to live up to their comments, or two-time listed stakes winners who retired meh, or millionaires who are "only" star - I mean absolute is-this-uterus-even-attached-to-this-runner type mares) . Do unpredictable millionaire mares exist?
Note, this is not to rag on any horses, I have great respect for pretty runners regardless of their mothering abilities (or do rag on your own frustrating mares, if you like, I won't stop you ) I'm just really curious to see how common it is for champ mares to be less than hen/star, my assumption was that runs great=BSAs great but I hear that is not the case!
DENSE FOG - AWS multiple freak producer
YOU WILL BE FOUND - DR millionaire producer
Also standing arabian sprinter ISKANDAR ELAKBAR, all weather router SUNRISE INTHE DAWN, and chasers RACING PIRATE and SURVIVOR SE LEVE
YOU WILL BE FOUND - DR millionaire producer
Also standing arabian sprinter ISKANDAR ELAKBAR, all weather router SUNRISE INTHE DAWN, and chasers RACING PIRATE and SURVIVOR SE LEVE
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Re: Best crappy mare?
Lightning https://www.simhorseracing.com//horse.p ... eID=494352 was good/unpredictable.
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Re: Best crappy mare?
Rose Golden Girl is unpredictable (1 allowance, 1 productive, 1 claimer)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1104818
Eroica is a formidable (2 stakes, 2 allowance, 1 ungalloped)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=969330
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1104818
Eroica is a formidable (2 stakes, 2 allowance, 1 ungalloped)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=969330
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The Stars We Steal (Formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1089493
Run Wild (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=872404
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1089493
Run Wild (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=872404
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She Sleeps Forever Formidable DS
I paid an arm and leg for this girl Y44. Her only nice foal came from the steward when she leased her one season.
I paid an arm and leg for this girl Y44. Her only nice foal came from the steward when she leased her one season.
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Silver Jeans (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1029661
Stars in Her Eyes (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=965900
Make Minutes Count (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=822476
Private Show (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=878738
Two Hearts As One (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=822639
Most Adored (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=787780
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1029661
Stars in Her Eyes (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=965900
Make Minutes Count (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=822476
Private Show (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=878738
Two Hearts As One (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=822639
Most Adored (formidable)
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=787780
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Re: Best crappy mare?
Merry and Bright is a millionaire unpredictable. She's produced 4 claimers, 1 solid, 1 productive and 2 allowance, but neither of those allowance foals (or any of her foals for that matter) have ever actually won an allowance race, or even a maiden special weight, much less a stakes race. A noninsignificant number of my stewardbreds have been unpredictable after nice careers on the track.
Turf Miler studs
Hempstead
Nonego
Omnsicience
Paint Sprinter studs
Jersey
Lecythus*
Paint Mid studs
Corona Wagon Train*
Jacinth
Komati*
Livewires Turnpike*
Discounts for stakes winners/producers
* = multidistance potential
Hempstead
Nonego
Omnsicience
Paint Sprinter studs
Jersey
Lecythus*
Paint Mid studs
Corona Wagon Train*
Jacinth
Komati*
Livewires Turnpike*
Discounts for stakes winners/producers
* = multidistance potential
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Nyan Cat was a formidable
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=573316
Seemed to do all right anyway
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=573316
Seemed to do all right anyway
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Re: Best crappy mare?
Turn to Gold was formidable, claimer, solid, productive
And my namesake Elise was formidable 2 claimers, 2 solids and a productive
I'm sure I could find a lot more in my pasture lol
And my namesake Elise was formidable 2 claimers, 2 solids and a productive
I'm sure I could find a lot more in my pasture lol
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Now that's just sad & wrong.Louise Bayou wrote: ↑2 years ago
And my namesake Elise was formidable 2 claimers, 2 solids and a productive
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I choose not to participate in this or I will fell too sad lol
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Double Fluff
A very favorite AW Router that beat all ages and sexes, and made a good living in her time. The ONLY horse I ever paid 20 K just to keep her ' alive ' after her last foal. Retired to unpredictable and never came close to reproducing herself, best being an allowance she produced for someone else.
(Still love her tho)
A very favorite AW Router that beat all ages and sexes, and made a good living in her time. The ONLY horse I ever paid 20 K just to keep her ' alive ' after her last foal. Retired to unpredictable and never came close to reproducing herself, best being an allowance she produced for someone else.
(Still love her tho)
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I have had a few of these over the years.
Three of my best ever race mares , Between them produced less than nothing!!
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=568002
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=292743
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=596043
Three of my best ever race mares , Between them produced less than nothing!!
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=568002
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=292743
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=596043
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This one is nearing death of old age and still makes me angry. Formidable. Produced 3 allowance gallopers and nothing else: https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=372982
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Re: Best crappy mare?
Really ??? "HO" is used to charcterize a horse that made you over 2 mil twenty some Sim years ago ??