TB Gallop Thresholds Adjusted?

[Laura Ferguson]

My plan is to work all my yearlings at a correct workout distance, without equipment (checking the no equipment box), weeks 5-6. Since I actually have the gallop comments, that'll help me see what the range of unequipped workout times are and how they do/do not correlate with those gallop comments. Then weeks 7-8, I'm going to stop working my lesser yearlings, add equipment for the better galloping yearlings, and see how much their workout times drop compared to the no equipment works.

Honestly, this error is a golden opportunity to try this, so that in case the intent is that there will not be gallop comments for Y63 yearlings (ie, this "error" will be fixed), there is a chance to get a baseline to work off of. Doing this will also show whether workouts could be in a position to take over as a source of information, or whether there are problems that need to be better addressed before going that direction (sprinter Arabians, whose workout times are historically useless at predicting ability, I'm looking at _you_).

I'd encourage other players to do the same thing for a workout or two before switching over to whatever they normally do for workouts.

[David Faulkner]

Nothing to Regret' is pretty timid. I'm not sure she has a truly winning spirit. We'll see. This horse looks to be a late bloomer. You should bring her along carefully.

This makes me wonder of a horse improves from late bloomer to peak, is it possible for them to overcome being timid and become brave?

Sorry if this has already been addressed, I haven’t read the whole thread yet

Hello, no problem I think the comments have even more to give, it is a mixed combination that takes you to one more point there is every time they can be executed, well it is what I think

I have several incredible comments, well I believe in several horses and most are productive, the alLowwance have less pleasant comments

Well I am confused now this is the new comment of this Colosal horse

Yesterday (Y62-Pressaeason Trainer: Courageous, Brave, Bold, and read to Fight ... i'm Really printed with colosal's heart!

Today (Presaeson Trainer: 'colossal' is your run of the mill racerse that can probability handle a normal schedule. This Horse looks to be a late bloomer. You Should Bring Bring Him Along Carefully.)

Now it is true that I don't understand anything hahahaha

[David Faulkner]

Nothing to Regret' is pretty timid. I'm not sure she has a truly winning spirit. We'll see. This horse looks to be a late bloomer. You should bring her along carefully.

This makes me wonder of a horse improves from late bloomer to peak, is it possible for them to overcome being timid and become brave?

Sorry if this has already been addressed, I haven’t read the whole thread yet

Hello, no problem I think the comments have even more to give, it is a mixed combination that takes you to one more point there is every time they can be executed, well it is what I think

I have several incredible comments, well I believe in several horses and most are productive, the alLowwance have less pleasant comments

Well I am confused now this is the new comment of this Colosal horse

Yesterday (Y62-Pressaeason Trainer: Courageous, Brave, Bold, and read to Fight ... i'm Really printed with colosal's heart!

Today (Presaeson Trainer: 'colossal' is your run of the mill racerse that can probability handle a normal schedule. This Horse looks to be a late bloomer. You Should Bring Bring Him Along Carefully.)

Now it is true that I don't understand anything hahahaha

Now other comments from the heart came out, now I understand the heart has nothing to do with Galope's, I have a common horse, but with a heart of Leon Hahaha that is strong is like saying I am poor, more with a wealthy heart

[Anthony Zappulla]

I feel like a good horse that's timid will be not nearly as good as the workouts and gallop say, and say it's a freak while it may win a big race here and there because of the sheer ability it won't be contestant at all

The last real horse I can recall that I felt like this was the case was Twirling Candy, he raced in Cali mostly. I felt like this horse could have been special if it just wanted to race

[Laura Smith]

So far I've only seen the shed comment on claimers and solids.

I haven't seen a shed comment on anything higher than productive, but they're mostly on solids for me.

I have at least one shed comment on an Allowance level.

I have a stakes with that comment.

[Nena Olson]

My plan is to work all my yearlings at a correct workout distance, without equipment (checking the no equipment box), weeks 5-6. Since I actually have the gallop comments, that'll help me see what the range of unequipped workout times are and how they do/do not correlate with those gallop comments. Then weeks 7-8, I'm going to stop working my lesser yearlings, add equipment for the better galloping yearlings, and see how much their workout times drop compared to the no equipment works.

Honestly, this error is a golden opportunity to try this, so that in case the intent is that there will not be gallop comments for Y63 yearlings (ie, this "error" will be fixed), there is a chance to get a baseline to work off of. Doing this will also show whether workouts could be in a position to take over as a source of information, or whether there are problems that need to be better addressed before going that direction (sprinter Arabians, whose workout times are historically useless at predicting ability, I'm looking at _you_).

I'd encourage other players to do the same thing for a workout or two before switching over to whatever they normally do for workouts.

This is a fantastic idea

[Nena Olson]

Do you think that the don't insure colts are worth gelding right away? Or do you think its only based off of the current comment aka gallops.

[Laura Ferguson]

Do you think that the don't insure colts are worth gelding right away? Or do you think its only based off of the current comment aka gallops.

I'm not taking any immediate action on what has just rolled out, besides insuring a few yearlings that I was waffling on insuring last year that received the insure comment. I am watching those comments, and may eventually go that route - aka, geld colts with that comment - but I don't want to do anything irrevocable now until I better understand what they truly mean, and how accurate/reliable they are.

[Dave Trainer]

I haven't seen a shed comment on anything higher than productive, but they're mostly on solids for me.

I have at least one shed comment on an Allowance level.

I have a stakes with that comment.

So that particular comment bears no relation to ability.

[Dave Trainer]

My plan is to work all my yearlings at a correct workout distance, without equipment (checking the no equipment box), weeks 5-6. Since I actually have the gallop comments, that'll help me see what the range of unequipped workout times are and how they do/do not correlate with those gallop comments. Then weeks 7-8, I'm going to stop working my lesser yearlings, add equipment for the better galloping yearlings, and see how much their workout times drop compared to the no equipment works.

Honestly, this error is a golden opportunity to try this, so that in case the intent is that there will not be gallop comments for Y63 yearlings (ie, this "error" will be fixed), there is a chance to get a baseline to work off of. Doing this will also show whether workouts could be in a position to take over as a source of information, or whether there are problems that need to be better addressed before going that direction (sprinter Arabians, whose workout times are historically useless at predicting ability, I'm looking at _you_).

I'd encourage other players to do the same thing for a workout or two before switching over to whatever they normally do for workouts.

Worth a try. Thanks for sharing Laura

[Nena Olson]

The Breeding Shed and the Insurance comment are not correlated either

(She is a claimer)
Y62-Preseason Trainer: I'm really hoping to see '61 Tame Your Love' in the breeding shed one day! This horse looks to be a late bloomer. You should bring her along carefully.

Y62-Preseason Trainer: I wouldn't bother insuring '61 Tame Your Love' right now, unless you're attached to the pediree. This horse looks to be a late bloomer. You should bring her along carefully.

[Art K Stables]

Ok so they do better on consistency as far as the other breeds . So I assume workouts remain tied to eq.. I have no gallop comment to rely on and want to get an idea of this horse can run, the comment says to insure which is a positive indicator but nothing more .. I set my 3 furlong at 35 seconds , one horse does 34.90 another does 35.22.. the 35.22 horse is a 2 piece eq who’s one piece will not give out in a gallop .. I won’t bother to eq, too slow .. the 34.90 horse eq check says no eq needed , the 2 eq horse I never bother to eq would have run 34.80 fully equipped, I lose.. so as things stand horses that need less equipment will have an advantage which should be meaningless but not in this game

[Anthony Zappulla]

If nothing is said or changed you have to play more with what is a good time for 2 piece and what is good for 1, and when u have atleast one piece figured then u will know

So really u wont know until a few week past week 5 unless u ask for one piece to be reviled

[Nena Olson]

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1580576

This colt is a "Don't Insure" but wants to be "Breeding Shed" and is a productive Late Bloomer. Sir you have a lot of work to do if you want to be in the breeding shed

[Ryan Whitehead]

https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1580576

This colt is a "Don't Insure" but wants to be "Breeding Shed" and is a productive Late Bloomer. Sir you have a lot of work to do if you want to be in the breeding shed

Maybe it means his hormones are raging and he wants to be in the shed BUT on the track he is just going to follow behind the fillies and never try to win. Fillies will drive a colt crazy