'Natural' chaser rating?

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Emmie Kay wrote: 4 years ago
Carole Hanson wrote: 4 years ago Could someone please tell me what the 'natural' chaser comment amounts to? I have a 3yo filly that was galloped at the year change over so it's showing me her gallop comment rather than her chase comment and she just raced so I can't train her to jump. Thanks in advance!
It used to mean Chase Stakes, now it means Chase Allowance after the Y54 adjustment. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong. 🧐
I actually have at least one that went from "natural" last season to a chase claimer with the current adjustment. Makes sense because he is a maiden after 8 starts. Actually, I have two that made the downward plunge from natural to claimer; the other is an unstarted 3 YO. Well, at least the 3 YO is a late bloomer :roll:
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Rochelle Zahacy wrote: 4 years ago You guys might want to make a new post, you kinda took over Carol’s 😉
Aha thanks Rochelle but yea the question was answered already so I don’t mind ;)
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I was wondering when this thread would start.
Chasers seem like the middle redheaded step child of the sim.

I have one that was chase freak as a 3yo, then got nerfed a few seasons back to chase stakes just before he started racing.
He went back to chase freak this last offseason, then slapped back to chase stakes with the most recent beating.

Dearest Lovely Steward, quit taking out your aggressions on the chaser people. Abuse some dirt route thoroughbreds instead, you know....the golden children. The cutest and everyones favorites.

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Lee Tuttle wrote: 4 years ago
Dearest Lovely Steward, quit taking out your aggressions on the chaser people. Abuse some dirt route thoroughbreds instead, you know....the golden children. The cutest and everyones favorites.

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The Steward wrote: 4 years ago
Lee Tuttle wrote: 4 years ago
Dearest Lovely Steward, quit taking out your aggressions on the chaser people. Abuse some dirt route thoroughbreds instead, you know....the golden children. The cutest and everyones favorites.

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Ability ratings are nice to know, so this is not a post about getting rid of gallops. But I race my horses based on how they perform on the track.

As an experiment in willpower, I have one horse I have never galloped and just ran. I plan on doing it with a few more. Just wish there was another way to get equipment than gallops or I would do it more often.

The benefit to ability ratings is that I am also working on flat/chaser bred horses. So I get super stoked when I find a horse with ability on both.
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With chasers its all we have to go on when they are 2yo and when they start racing as 3yo's.
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Ali Hedgestone wrote: 4 years ago Ability ratings are nice to know, so this is not a post about getting rid of gallops. But I race my horses based on how they perform on the track.

As an experiment in willpower, I have one horse I have never galloped and just ran. I plan on doing it with a few more. Just wish there was another way to get equipment than gallops or I would do it more often.

The benefit to ability ratings is that I am also working on flat/chaser bred horses. So I get super stoked when I find a horse with ability on both.
Ok. Example.

This one stayed as Chase Freak: https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1069152
This one changed from Chase Freak to Chase Stakes... https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1079996

Well, the rating isn't everything.. :)
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Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 4 years ago
Ali Hedgestone wrote: 4 years ago Ability ratings are nice to know, so this is not a post about getting rid of gallops. But I race my horses based on how they perform on the track.

As an experiment in willpower, I have one horse I have never galloped and just ran. I plan on doing it with a few more. Just wish there was another way to get equipment than gallops or I would do it more often.

The benefit to ability ratings is that I am also working on flat/chaser bred horses. So I get super stoked when I find a horse with ability on both.
Ok. Example.

This one stayed as Chase Freak: https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1069152
This one changed from Chase Freak to Chase Stakes... https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1079996

Well, the rating isn't everything.. :)
I just looked in your barn and they were both Chase Freak still? (Unless someone changed yesterday and you galloped, I didn't check that part and now I'm not in your barn anymore)
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So I jumped the original filly I posted about and I'm glad I did because she's a chase claimer now and jumped 'with confidence', so this allowance TR is staying on the flat!
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The Steward wrote: 4 years ago
Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 4 years ago
Ali Hedgestone wrote: 4 years ago Ability ratings are nice to know, so this is not a post about getting rid of gallops. But I race my horses based on how they perform on the track.

As an experiment in willpower, I have one horse I have never galloped and just ran. I plan on doing it with a few more. Just wish there was another way to get equipment than gallops or I would do it more often.

The benefit to ability ratings is that I am also working on flat/chaser bred horses. So I get super stoked when I find a horse with ability on both.
Ok. Example.

This one stayed as Chase Freak: https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1069152
This one changed from Chase Freak to Chase Stakes... https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1079996

Well, the rating isn't everything.. :)
I just looked in your barn and they were both Chase Freak still? (Unless someone changed yesterday and you galloped, I didn't check that part and now I'm not in your barn anymore)
I havn't jumped the horses since you automatically changed the ratings... I'm very happy if both are freaks! The other 2 y olds are a very sad story... Much needed change, but I really have to hold myself from crying my eyes out right now! ;)
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Dave Trainer wrote: 4 years ago With chasers its all we have to go on when they are 2yo and when they start racing as 3yo's.
It would be cool if you could do timed works over the jumps, that would help bridge the gap that exists I would think.
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I find this thread very sad in regards to Lalor and this chopping and changing, it did not have to be posted if the issues bought up were listened to earlier.

The Steward was contacted by not only myself, but another player as well at the beginning of last year with concerns about the number of freaks that Lalor was producing compared to the drop in the number of freaks across the boards in stables, it was ridiculously high. But we were just fobbed off.

So good luck in getting anything done, I am so over all the chopping and changing its unrealistic and makes the chaser division not a fun one to be in.
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There’s not much you can do but wait for Lalor to be pensioned, mixers have been dealing with the same thing ever since Holiday Stallions came into the bunch as Pete mentioned. It sucks, but you can’t just tell Lucas he has to pension Lalor or give a significant knock to Lalor’s ability. It sucks but there's really no great solution the way I see it.
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