***Update #2 ***
There were several stallions that were left off of this list because one or more of their parents and/or grandparents were racing or doing workouts prior to Year 44. It looks like there was a big change in how workout times and speed figures were done between Year 43 and Year 44.
If you look at the workout times for Turf 3 Furlongs for Year 43, you will see that the fastest workout time was 35.90 seconds
https://www.simhorseracing.com/rankings ... e=&Type=-1
If you look at the workout times for Turf 3 Furlongs for Year 44, you will see that the fastest workout time was 35.24 seconds
https://www.simhorseracing.com/rankings ... e=&Type=-1
Speed Figures also dramatically improved between Year 43 and Year 44. This makes BRAT useless for evaluating any horse that was racing or doing workouts prior to Year 44. I have eliminated those horses from the BRAT calculation.
One horse in particular, Hero Morgan, was hurt by this change as his Dam, "She May be Right (CA)" and her Sire "Mr. Vain (KY)" had poor Speed Figures and workout times. "Mr. Vain (KY)", in particular had a BSF of 79 but still won Multiple Stakes Races! "Mr. Vain (KY)" progeny won over $10 million.
This is the Horse info sheet for "Mr. Vain (KY)"
I want to thank John Smith for pointing this change in Speed Figure and Speed Figures out to me.
***Update****
I have updated the list to include Stallions that have either Game Point Sires or unraced/unworked out horses as parent/grandparents. If you see N/A in one of the columns, it means that one or more of the horses in that generation do not have a BSF or workout time
This puts "Cape Wearing Kid (AUS)", "Can You Feel It (TX)", "John Christopher (KY)" and "Talus (TX)" at the top of the list. All 4 Stallions did not have a parent that had a BSF or workout time
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As a companion table to my Feature News article on Thoroughbred Breeding Analysis: Turf Sprinters, I am showing the BRAT ratings for all of the Turf Sprinters on the Stud Book that have 3 generations of BRAT data. I do not include Stallions that have one (or more) of the parents (2) or grandparents(4) that is Game Sired or otherwise has never ran in a race or has done a workout.
The table lists the name of the horse, the overall BRAT, the predicted BSF if you translate BRAT into BSF, the BRAT for the horse, the average BRAT for his 2 parents and the average BRAT for the 4 grandparents.
To use this date, you will have to compute the BRAT for the mare and then average the BRAT for the mare with the BRAT for the stallion. You can then convert the resulting BRAT into predicted BSF using the Linear Regression equation I supplied in my article on "Thoroughbred Racing Analysis: Workouts - Turf 3F vs BSF" (https://www.simhorseracing.com/featurer ... leID=19225)
The data is in CSV (comma separated format) so you can load the data into a Spreadsheet program for easy reference.
I will update the table at the Break with the new stallions that get put to stud.
NAME, BRAT, pred BSF, BRAT(self), BRAT(parents), BRAT(grand)
John Christopher (KY), 0:35.16, 100.5, 0:35.16, N/A, N/A
Can You Feel It (TX), 0:35.16, 100.5, 0:35.16, N/A, N/A
Cape Wearing Kid (AUS), 0:35.16, 100.5, 0:35.16, N/A, N/A
Dash (MO), 0:35.20, 99.5, 0:35.20, N/A, N/A
Tizerkane (TX), 0:35.20, 99.5, 0:35.20, N/A, N/A
Fred Astaire (TX), 0:35.26, 98.0, 0:35.24, 0:35.28, N/A
Ahtohallan (KY), 0:35.28, 97.5, 0:35.20, 0:35.36, N/A
Zog (AUS), 0:35.28, 97.5, 0:35.28, N/A, N/A
Face the Wind (JPN), 0:35.30, 97.0, 0:35.16, 0:35.46, N/A
For Answers (TX), 0:35.30, 97.0, 0:35.32, 0:35.28, N/A
Talus (TX), 0:35.32, 96.5, 0:35.32, N/A, N/A
At the Summit (CAN), 0:35.34, 96.0, 0:35.24, 0:35.46, N/A
Dirk Provin (IRE), 0:35.35, 95.7, 0:35.16, 0:35.56, N/A
See You in the Dark (JPN), 0:35.35, 95.7, 0:35.24, 0:35.48, N/A
Iron Patriot (GBR), 0:35.36, 95.5, 0:35.36, N/A, N/A
Hernan Cortes (TX), 0:35.36, 95.5, 0:35.36, 0:35.38, N/A
Hero Morgan (GBR), 0:35.36, 95.5, 0:35.36, N/A, N/A
Military Base (JPN), 0:35.36, 95.5, 0:35.52, 0:35.20, N/A
Black Magic Hero (JPN), 0:35.38, 94.9, 0:35.20, 0:35.58, N/A
Mighty Mondays (TX), 0:35.38, 94.9, 0:35.48, 0:35.28, N/A
Paranormal (KY), 0:35.38, 94.9, 0:35.40, 0:35.38, N/A
Pervasive (JPN), 0:35.38, 94.9, 0:35.40, 0:35.38, N/A
Wait for Daylight (IRE), 0:35.38, 94.9, 0:35.28, 0:35.48, N/A
Riven Gold (LA), 0:35.38, 94.9, 0:35.16, 0:35.62, N/A
I Am Inevitable (JPN), 0:35.39, 94.7, 0:35.24, 0:35.55, N/A
Feather's Shadow (CAN), 0:35.39, 94.7, 0:35.16, 0:35.64, N/A
Shifter (AUS), 0:35.40, 94.4, 0:35.40, N/A, N/A
Lord Empire (JPN), 0:35.40, 94.4, 0:35.40, N/A, N/A
Race the Storm (AUS), 0:35.40, 94.4, 0:35.40, N/A, N/A
Tiny Little Lie (KY), 0:35.41, 94.2, 0:35.32, 0:35.51, N/A
Someday Fun Day (WV), 0:35.41, 94.2, 0:35.36, 0:35.46, N/A
Matter of Law (TX), 0:35.41, 94.2, 0:35.32, 0:35.52, N/A
Magical Matter (TX), 0:35.41, 94.2, 0:35.44, 0:35.40, N/A
Ifitmakesyouhappy (TX), 0:35.42, 93.9, 0:35.40, 0:35.46, N/A
Monday Royale (TX), 0:35.42, 93.9, 0:35.44, 0:35.42, N/A
Santa Anita Park (TX), 0:35.42, 93.9, 0:35.48, 0:35.38, N/A
Liszt (GBR), 0:35.43, 93.7, 0:35.36, 0:35.52, N/A
Protagonist Story (AUS), 0:35.44, 93.4, 0:35.28, 0:35.62, N/A
The Maker (KY), 0:35.44, 93.4, 0:35.44, N/A, N/A
Serendipities (OK), 0:35.44, 93.4, 0:35.44, 0:35.46, N/A
Eternal Reign (OK), 0:35.44, 93.4, 0:35.44, 0:35.46, N/A
Mama Beat Papa (CAN), 0:35.44, 93.4, 0:35.52, 0:35.36, N/A
Black Across (JPN), 0:35.44, 93.4, 0:35.56, 0:35.32, N/A
Doyoubelieveinmagic (CAN), 0:35.45, 93.2, 0:35.32, 0:35.60, N/A
Dr Estimate (TX), 0:35.45, 93.2, 0:35.48, 0:35.44, N/A
Heroic Choice (JPN), 0:35.45, 93.2, 0:35.36, 0:35.44, 0:35.57
Free From Fear (CAN), 0:35.45, 93.2, 0:35.28, 0:35.64, N/A
Dr. Hurricane (LA), 0:35.45, 93.2, 0:35.36, 0:35.56, N/A
God of Mischief (OK), 0:35.45, 93.2, 0:35.24, 0:35.68, N/A
Noozhoh (OK), 0:35.46, 92.9, 0:35.44, 0:35.42, 0:35.52
Song of My Dreams (IRE), 0:35.46, 92.9, 0:35.48, 0:35.44, N/A
Absconder (LA), 0:35.46, 92.9, 0:35.56, 0:35.36, N/A
Morandi (SPN), 0:35.47, 92.7, 0:35.32, 0:35.64, N/A
Rayz of Neon (CAN), 0:35.47, 92.7, 0:35.36, 0:35.60, N/A
Varenar (TX), 0:35.48, 92.4, 0:35.48, 0:35.50, N/A
Velociraptor Blue (KY), 0:35.48, 92.4, 0:35.48, 0:35.49, N/A
The Grayest of All (IRE), 0:35.48, 92.4, 0:35.56, 0:35.42, N/A
Jaizkibel (TX), 0:35.48, 92.4, 0:35.52, 0:35.46, N/A
End of the Pier (TX), 0:35.49, 92.2, 0:35.52, 0:35.48, N/A
Loki Behave (OK), 0:35.49, 92.2, 0:35.44, 0:35.56, N/A
Silver Light (TX), 0:35.49, 92.2, 0:35.48, 0:35.52, N/A
Oppressive (TX), 0:35.49, 92.2, 0:35.52, 0:35.48, N/A
Mystery Sky (TX), 0:35.49, 92.2, 0:35.59, 0:35.40, N/A
Fantasy Island (TX), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.44, 0:35.58, N/A
See You Pricked (TX), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.48, 0:35.54, N/A
Northern Avenger (CAN), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.44, 0:35.58, N/A
The Purrfect Horse (CAN), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.48, 0:35.52, N/A
Time Stamped (TX), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.56, 0:35.46, N/A
Sherpa (CA), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.50, N/A, N/A
Proud Empire (WV), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.52, 0:35.48, N/A
Lorde Makes Music (JPN), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.56, 0:35.46, N/A
Dancinginmyshadow (TX), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.28, 0:35.67, 0:35.56
Movie Maker (KY), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.63, 0:35.38, N/A
Fire Rising (CAN), 0:35.50, 91.9, 0:35.44, 0:35.56, N/A
Get That Gold (NZL), 0:35.51, 91.7, 0:35.44, 0:35.52, 0:35.58
Mahler (CAN), 0:35.51, 91.7, 0:35.36, 0:35.68, N/A
Nevermind (TX), 0:35.51, 91.7, 0:35.59, 0:35.44, N/A
Bone for Tuna (JPN), 0:35.51, 91.7, 0:35.56, 0:35.46, N/A
Lord Wreckoner (JPN), 0:35.51, 91.7, 0:35.59, 0:35.44, N/A
Graceless Dude (JPN), 0:35.51, 91.7, 0:35.56, 0:35.46, N/A
Freedoms Worth It (CAN), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.40, 0:35.66, N/A
Plum Bum (TX), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.59, 0:35.46, N/A
Kefren (TX), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.48, 0:35.58, N/A
Tragically Hip (JPN), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.52, 0:35.52, N/A
Instant Boost (BRZ), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.63, 0:35.42, N/A
My Own Person (BRZ), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.59, 0:35.46, N/A
Dwight Howard (OK), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.52, N/A, N/A
Dirk Pitt (CAN), 0:35.52, 91.4, 0:35.44, 0:35.62, N/A
Emerald Islands (TX), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.59, 0:35.48, N/A
The Dalek (JPN), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.63, 0:35.44, N/A
Armies Always Rise (TX), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.40, 0:35.68, N/A
Jowy (TX), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.63, 0:35.44, N/A
Sonic Perfect (NY), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.56, 0:35.50, N/A
The Time Keeper (JPN), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.52, 0:35.56, N/A
Lord Dark Star (JPN), 0:35.53, 91.1, 0:35.48, 0:35.59, N/A
Karaka Smile (KY), 0:35.54, 90.9, 0:35.54, N/A, N/A
In Oeternum (JPN), 0:35.54, 90.9, 0:35.63, 0:35.46, N/A
Damascus Defender (JPN), 0:35.54, 90.9, 0:35.32, 0:35.78, N/A
Chulla Rulla (TX), 0:35.55, 90.6, 0:35.52, 0:35.38, 0:35.74
Flying Tigers (TX), 0:35.55, 90.6, 0:35.48, 0:35.43, 0:35.75
Deja Vu (TX), 0:35.55, 90.6, 0:35.67, 0:35.44, N/A
Beautyinthesorrow (KY), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.56, N/A, N/A
Demon in the Depth (GBR), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.59, 0:35.54, N/A
Can You Sack It (OK), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.67, 0:35.46, N/A
Happy Days Ahead (TX), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.56, 0:35.58, N/A
Heart Magnified (GBR), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.44, 0:35.70, N/A
Wild Sawyer (OK), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.48, 0:35.66, 0:35.55
In Full Pursuit (NY), 0:35.56, 90.4, 0:35.56, 0:35.58, N/A
Bold and Brave (CAN), 0:35.57, 90.1, 0:35.56, 0:35.59, N/A
Dark Myths (TX), 0:35.57, 90.1, 0:35.48, 0:35.68, N/A
Mellow Tint (IRE), 0:35.57, 90.1, 0:35.52, 0:35.64, N/A
Freedomland (TX), 0:35.57, 90.1, 0:35.48, 0:35.56, 0:35.67
Sweep the Forest (TX), 0:35.57, 90.1, 0:35.44, 0:35.56, 0:35.70
Some Mornings (MO), 0:35.58, 89.9, 0:35.63, 0:35.54, N/A
Pearly Omen (GBR), 0:35.58, 89.9, 0:35.63, 0:35.54, N/A
The Unforgiven (CAN), 0:35.58, 89.9, 0:35.56, 0:35.62, N/A
Fortrail (KY), 0:35.59, 89.6, 0:35.59, N/A, N/A
Stay On Your Mind (IRE), 0:35.59, 89.6, 0:35.59, N/A, N/A
Tragically Monday (IND), 0:35.59, 89.6, 0:35.52, 0:35.66, 0:35.60
Lured By Storms (LA), 0:35.59, 89.6, 0:35.59, 0:35.60, N/A
Strength in Weakness (CAN), 0:35.60, 89.4, 0:35.48, 0:35.74, N/A
Flip Flop (CAN), 0:35.61, 89.1, 0:35.56, 0:35.68, N/A
Zurigha (TUR), 0:35.61, 89.1, 0:35.44, 0:35.79, N/A
My Lobell (LA), 0:35.62, 88.9, 0:35.59, 0:35.66, N/A
Louisiana Boy (LA), 0:35.62, 88.9, 0:35.63, 0:35.62, N/A
Exciting Prospect (JPN), 0:35.62, 88.9, 0:35.56, 0:35.70, N/A
Reckoniamnotsweet (TX), 0:35.63, 88.6, 0:35.63, N/A, N/A
Gredos (TX), 0:35.63, 88.6, 0:35.63, N/A, N/A
Water Devil (IRE), 0:35.63, 88.6, 0:35.59, 0:35.68, N/A
Altered State (CAN), 0:35.64, 88.4, 0:35.67, 0:35.62, N/A
As A Rule (KY), 0:35.64, 88.4, 0:35.63, 0:35.66, N/A
Cleft in Trine (NZL), 0:35.65, 88.1, 0:35.52, 0:35.61, 0:35.83
Massace (KY), 0:35.67, 87.6, 0:35.67, N/A, N/A
See You Moon (TX), 0:35.68, 87.3, 0:35.67, 0:35.69, N/A
Sleipner (CAN), 0:35.69, 87.1, 0:35.44, 0:35.95, N/A
Running Strong (CAN), 0:35.69, 87.1, 0:35.67, 0:35.72, N/A
Noivern (KY), 0:35.74, 85.8, 0:35.74, N/A, N/A
Kitimat (IL), 0:36.43, 68.3, 0:36.43, N/A, N/A
BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
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BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
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These are crazy!
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DR... ROYAL ASSASSIN | WITTED
TR... DAY TO DAY | FIRST CLASS | MEGAPIXELS | MIJO | VALAR | WILDNESS
Future Sires... CINEMA (Y69 or 70) | TRAILBLAZING (Y68 or 69)
DR... ROYAL ASSASSIN | WITTED
TR... DAY TO DAY | FIRST CLASS | MEGAPIXELS | MIJO | VALAR | WILDNESS
Future Sires... CINEMA (Y69 or 70) | TRAILBLAZING (Y68 or 69)
Re: BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
Great read as always!!! Always looking forward to your articles XD
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This is awesome stuff, and great job for putting so much work and time into this! Can I ask why Talus isn't on the list?
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Re: BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
I think it is because Toho Jackel did not race in the SIM. WC wrote "I do not include Stallions that have one (or more) of the parents (2) or grandparents(4) that is Game Sired or otherwise has never ran in a race or has done a workout."Laura Smith wrote: ↑1 year ago This is awesome stuff, and great job for putting so much work and time into this! Can I ask why Talus isn't on the list?
Re: BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
Laura Ferguson is correct. Talus' Sire (Toho Jackel) and 3 of his grandparents (Special Week, Toho Gaia, See the Stars) do not have BSFs or workout times, so he did not appear in the original list.Laura Ferguson wrote: ↑1 year agoI think it is because Toho Jackel did not race in the SIM. WC wrote "I do not include Stallions that have one (or more) of the parents (2) or grandparents(4) that is Game Sired or otherwise has never ran in a race or has done a workout."Laura Smith wrote: ↑1 year ago This is awesome stuff, and great job for putting so much work and time into this! Can I ask why Talus isn't on the list?
I have now updated the list of Stallions to include the BRAT for those Stallions that had parents/grandparents that do not have BRATs. Those parents/grandparents that do not have a BRAT have "N/A" on the column where the BRAT for the parent or grandparent would be.
In the case where there is an "N/A", The BRAT for the Stallion is based 100% on the Stallion's own BSF (if the parent have no BRAT) or 1/2 the Stallion's BRAT + 1/2 the Stallion's parents' BRAT (if the grandparents have no BRAT).
Thanks for pointing this out. I will update the Dirt Stallions list as well
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I haven't had a whole lot of time to dig into all of this information, but this is awesome! Huge thank you for putting all of this together!
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Re: BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
I did not see last year's SC winner, Hero Morgan, on your list. Is it because his BRAT rating is so low?
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Hero Morgan
5 furlong specialist extraordinaire!
Bennie and the Jets
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Re: BRAT Ratings for Turf Sprinter Stallions
There was a big change in how Speed Figures and Workout times were calculated between Year 44 and Year 43. This was just pointed out to me by John Smith.Ronnie Dee wrote: ↑1 year ago I did not see last year's SC winner, Hero Morgan, on your list. Is it because his BRAT rating is so low?
Hero Morgan was penalized because his Dam, "She May Be Right (CA") and her sire, "Mr. Vain" were racing and doing workouts prior to Year 43.
I have made an update to the list and provided an explanation as to what happened.