A Black Mark on the Racing World
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I’m truly sorry Pepper, but people have been trying to beat the system since the beginning of time. It is sad when they use a horse like Maximum Security to further their endeavours. How will we know what his true abilities are without the chemicals. John Tammaro once told me that they should ban ALL drugs and then you’ll separate the horsemen from the pretenders.
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I sort of expect Maximum Security will be retired after this. I want to hear Coolmore's thoughts as they bought into the horse just recently. I also am wondering what the Saudi's think. Its extremely sad and if racing doesn't severely punish those involved, they may as well nail their coffin completely closed imo.
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This is unfathomable. That poor horse.Apr. 3: Four days after winning the Golden Shaheen in Dubai, an intercepted call between Navarro and Zulueta details how Navarro allegedly doped X Y Jet in the weeks leading up to, and even on the day of, the race: “I gave it to him through 50 injections. I gave it to him through the mouth.”
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And then he died of a heart attack this year. OMG
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At the risk of sounding cynical and like a smart-a**; Anyone who is shocked and surprised by this hasn't really worked in the industry. Be it racing or breeding/yearlings. It is a tough and crooked racket. I have known MANY small time trainers who are absolutely brilliant horseman who end up breaking the rules. Why? Because they say that in order to beat the big boys you need to play the game by their rules. (But don't think that I believe all big-time trainers are cheating, but many are). If you don't win you don't get clients and you can pack up and go home. And its not justs about the drugs, but the "plugging-in" before a race, lying to owners about their horses etc, etc. I absolutely love racing and I miss it like you can't imagine. BUT, I definitely do not miss this garbage.
Just my two cents worth.
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I was being facetiousGwayne Mike wrote: ↑4 years agoYou're telling us this has happened before?Nick Gilmore wrote: ↑4 years ago You people act like horse racing has never had anything like this happen before! Dancer’s Image comes to mind, lol. How naive can you get?
Ok, I’ll shut up now I’ve had my chuckle of the day.
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Are any of us surprised? No, not really. The big thing we should all be worried about is how mainstream this is going and the impact that we'd see if the racing industry doesn't throw the book at them. This is the first big scandal where I've had an f-ton of people who aren't into racing sending me messages asking if I've seen it (duh of course I have) because racing's been in the news a lot more with all the Santa Anita press. Doping happens all the time but as far as I remember this is the first time I've seen people getting federal indictments over it.
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I hate cheats, but I hate animal abusers a LOT more. We recently finally got rid of an absolute tosser of a trainer in my state who was giving horses meth and cocaine. For two YEARS we had to put up with losing prize money to this cheating waste of air while they put together a strong enough case to keep him out of the game. I personally lost thousands of dollars. However, I can handle that. Why I wanted to murder the guy was the horses. They’d leave his stable, go through withdrawal and look like starvation cases just two weeks after their last start. And one broke down and died in a race and the jockey got a fractured spine and HOW DARE this trainer do that to a horse and an apprentice jockey.
So I hope they slap these guys with everything the law has available, especially animal cruelty charges.
So I hope they slap these guys with everything the law has available, especially animal cruelty charges.
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I knew a trainer who though a mean horse was a good racehorse, he used tp beat on them. Only thing it did was made them unruly nutters on and off the track. His win percentage was crap, imagine that. That will be hard to police, can’t test for abuse.
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What really gets me is how are the vets helping?! Isn’t it LITERALLY their job to keep the horses healthy and safe?Cleo Patra wrote: ↑4 years ago I hate cheats, but I hate animal abusers a LOT more. We recently finally got rid of an absolute tosser of a trainer in my state who was giving horses meth and cocaine. For two YEARS we had to put up with losing prize money to this cheating waste of air while they put together a strong enough case to keep him out of the game. I personally lost thousands of dollars. However, I can handle that. Why I wanted to murder the guy was the horses. They’d leave his stable, go through withdrawal and look like starvation cases just two weeks after their last start. And one broke down and died in a race and the jockey got a fractured spine and HOW DARE this trainer do that to a horse and an apprentice jockey.
So I hope they slap these guys with everything the law has available, especially animal cruelty charges.
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Their motivation is to make money. Some are REALLY crooked.Rochelle Zahacy wrote: ↑4 years agoWhat really gets me is how are the vets helping?! Isn’t it LITERALLY their job to keep the horses healthy and safe?Cleo Patra wrote: ↑4 years ago I hate cheats, but I hate animal abusers a LOT more. We recently finally got rid of an absolute tosser of a trainer in my state who was giving horses meth and cocaine. For two YEARS we had to put up with losing prize money to this cheating waste of air while they put together a strong enough case to keep him out of the game. I personally lost thousands of dollars. However, I can handle that. Why I wanted to murder the guy was the horses. They’d leave his stable, go through withdrawal and look like starvation cases just two weeks after their last start. And one broke down and died in a race and the jockey got a fractured spine and HOW DARE this trainer do that to a horse and an apprentice jockey.
So I hope they slap these guys with everything the law has available, especially animal cruelty charges.
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Dr. Hacklu, time to man up and confront your colleagues!
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He's a complainer, but I don't think he is on the take.
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I guess Country House really did win the Kentucky Derby.