Rest/vetting: strange things
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Rest/vetting: strange things
A few of us in chat noticed that horses who just raced W16 D4/5 are vetting perfectly. A couple horses that ran W16D4 vetted great, were given every possible exercise and still didn't injure. Was there a glitch in rest this break, perchance?
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Me and another player noticed this at the beginning of last year -- that those that ran Week 16 Wednesday or before were fully rested for Week 1.
Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Please give 2 examples so we can investigate. Also, can you find examples where the horses are not rested?Laura Smith wrote: ↑5 years ago A few of us in chat noticed that horses who just raced W16 D4/5 are vetting perfectly. A couple horses that ran W16D4 vetted great, were given every possible exercise and still didn't injure. Was there a glitch in rest this break, perchance?
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Raced SC Thursday, vetted today:
Y52-Preseason Vet: There are currently no physical problems that I can see with Darkdesperatehours. This horse is at its peak, it would seem, energy wise, so go ahead and race it!
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=993138
Also this:
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=979705
Ran w16d4, vetted fine, then I did every possible exercise. He vets tired now, but I'd expect a horse to break if I did all that stuff like three days after a race...
Also vetted a couple yearlings who vetted perfect right after a gallop.
Y52-Preseason Vet: There are currently no physical problems that I can see with Darkdesperatehours. This horse is at its peak, it would seem, energy wise, so go ahead and race it!
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=993138
Also this:
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=979705
Ran w16d4, vetted fine, then I did every possible exercise. He vets tired now, but I'd expect a horse to break if I did all that stuff like three days after a race...
Also vetted a couple yearlings who vetted perfect right after a gallop.
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
This is really unusual, isn't it?! After gallops and jogs, the horses are really rested? I've galloped and jogged some of them trying to get equipment, etc, and they're all okay after the exercises.
I went ahead and entered some of them for next week's races which I might not have done in years past, but I'm assuming it's okay?
I went ahead and entered some of them for next week's races which I might not have done in years past, but I'm assuming it's okay?
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Okay, here's one that ran W16D3 and just vetted "should be fine tomorrow." https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=959867
W16D5, "should be fine tomorrow" https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=943602
W16D5, "Seems kind of tired" https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=987191
W16D5 and now apparently fully rested:
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=879675
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1007537
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=996670
W16D5, "should be fine tomorrow" https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=943602
W16D5, "Seems kind of tired" https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=987191
W16D5 and now apparently fully rested:
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=879675
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.ph ... ID=1007537
https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=996670
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Thank you for the specific examples you've provided. It is very helpful.
One note: During the break, if you don't do any activities (like gallop), your horses stay at a constant amount of tiredness (or rested-ness). If, during break, you Vet your horse today, and again tomorrow without doing any activities, the Vet will report the same amount of rest - it's not one day more rested because time isn't passing. Another way to say it is the Vet is telling you how rested the horse will be on Week 1.
However, it appears that the rest calculations didn't work correctly at the end of the year. All the logs and simulated tests show that the right operations happened, but your example horses show that they didn't. In other words, your horses are more rested than they should be. It's too risky for us to try to manipulate this now that we are in the break, so consider it a 'gift' that your horses got magic rest. Whatever the Vet says is correct.
We will run more simulated tests and we will monitor it very closely at the end of this new year. Sorry for the inconvenience.
One note: During the break, if you don't do any activities (like gallop), your horses stay at a constant amount of tiredness (or rested-ness). If, during break, you Vet your horse today, and again tomorrow without doing any activities, the Vet will report the same amount of rest - it's not one day more rested because time isn't passing. Another way to say it is the Vet is telling you how rested the horse will be on Week 1.
However, it appears that the rest calculations didn't work correctly at the end of the year. All the logs and simulated tests show that the right operations happened, but your example horses show that they didn't. In other words, your horses are more rested than they should be. It's too risky for us to try to manipulate this now that we are in the break, so consider it a 'gift' that your horses got magic rest. Whatever the Vet says is correct.
We will run more simulated tests and we will monitor it very closely at the end of this new year. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Thank you for letting us know! And double thank you for the 'gift'!The Admin wrote: ↑5 years ago Thank you for the specific examples you've provided. It is very helpful.
One note: During the break, if you don't do any activities (like gallop), your horses stay at a constant amount of tiredness (or rested-ness). If, during break, you Vet your horse today, and again tomorrow without doing any activities, the Vet will report the same amount of rest - it's not one day more rested because time isn't passing. Another way to say it is the Vet is telling you how rested the horse will be on Week 1.
However, it appears that the rest calculations didn't work correctly at the end of the year. All the logs and simulated tests show that the right operations happened, but your example horses show that they didn't. In other words, your horses are more rested than they should be. It's too risky for us to try to manipulate this now that we are in the break, so consider it a 'gift' that your horses got magic rest. Whatever the Vet says is correct.
We will run more simulated tests and we will monitor it very closely at the end of this new year. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
This has messed me up so much now I have no idea what do to with my horses, do I gallop them W1 to keep them fit and stick with my plans? Start of Something is completely rested after running 51.16.4 do I run her week 1?! Do I just continue on like normal?! My whole life is a lie haha
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Same for me Rochelle, now I don't know whether horses like King of Ashes should get a gallop or workout or something? I'm afraid he won't be fit enough for the Pegasus now but I can't know for sure
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
In theory - since the game was in a 'pause' then fitness shouldn't have been lost over the break. With the rest issue, I don't know if that's the case or not. But.. Keep in mind, everyone is in the same boat.
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Whoops! Didn’t mean for the second one to be fit! Fixed XDAli Hedgestone wrote: ↑5 years ago In theory - since the game was in a 'pause' then fitness shouldn't have been lost over the break. With the rest issue, I don't know if that's the case or not. But.. Keep in mind, everyone is in the same boat.
But yeah, everyone is for sure in the same boat! I’ve had it beaten into my head since I started that break doesn’t count for rest, so it’s really hard to wrap
My head around running a horse W16 and then W1
But I got “Y52-Preseason Vet: Start of Something's legs look fine for now. This horse looks absolutely fine to me!” So why not right?
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Right!Rochelle Zahacy wrote: ↑5 years agoWhoops! Didn’t mean for the second one to be fit! Fixed XDAli Hedgestone wrote: ↑5 years ago In theory - since the game was in a 'pause' then fitness shouldn't have been lost over the break. With the rest issue, I don't know if that's the case or not. But.. Keep in mind, everyone is in the same boat.
But yeah, everyone is for sure in the same boat! I’ve had it beaten into my head since I started that break doesn’t count for rest, so it’s really hard to wrap
My head around running a horse W16 and then W1
But I got “Y52-Preseason Vet: Start of Something's legs look fine for now. This horse looks absolutely fine to me!” So why not right?
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Technically yes but if we specifically use the Pegasus Turf as an example, Deputy Governor who raced week 16 will have now accumulated more rest than he would have without the bug so what I’m saying is my only way to compete against him is gone now
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Re: Rest/vetting: strange things
Good to know. Thanks for looking into this!
I'm not sure that I'm going to change any of my plans, tbh. I like to use this time of year for a bit of extra rest anyway, so I'll take it even if it was by accident
I'm not sure that I'm going to change any of my plans, tbh. I like to use this time of year for a bit of extra rest anyway, so I'll take it even if it was by accident
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