Mating Advice

Matt Woolfolk · Post by **Matt Woolfolk** » 17 years ago

I have a mare, Detection(Fu peg X Pulpit mare)

I was looking to breed her to Teton Forest.

I like him because he has a winner from an Ap Indy lined mare, and he brings in Storm Cat to complement the Mr. P in Detection's pedigree. The $1,500 fee didn't hurt his case either.

What does someone else think?

-NJ

Ronda Figal · Post by **Ronda Figal** » 17 years ago

humm.. looking at yoyur mares grand dam as your mare i s still unproven i noticed that she crossed beautifully with Battle Cry to produce Lucifer..also teton forest is still trying to decide if he throws long or short runners and your mare is bred long on both sides..so if she were mine id be looking for a long running battle cry grandson or great grandson who likes the turf.

Ronda Figal · Post by **Ronda Figal** » 17 years ago

i'd save the money and send her to Gothic Dream if she were mine...

Eric Nalbone · Post by **Eric Nalbone** » 17 years ago

Ronda's suggestion of Gothic Dream is a good one; there's a lot to like about adding some Battle Cry to this pedigree, particularly turf-oriented Battle Cry. That makes Canute appealing as well, but he might be a little bit pricey for your tastes.

The issuse I have with Teton Forest for this particular mare is that your mare (based only on her pedigree) seems like she ought to have some stamina and should have enjoyed the turf. That said, you'll notice that I'm listed as the mare's breeder, and I've had more success with the family on DIRT. Its all very complicated, but you should be looking for a versatile, proven stallion, or a really appealing cross to a stallion that *should* be pretty versatile. I'm not all that excited about what Al Nasr and Pleasant Colony bring to this pedigree in terms of this particular mare, and I'm not yet sold on Teton Forest as a sire. Your ideas are valid, they're just not an experiment that I'd take.

I'd instead be looking to do one of two things:
1) Replicate crosses of Fusaichi Pegasus-line mares that have produced winning 2yos this season.

2) Pick a classy, versatile stallion and just roll the dice.

Taking the first approach, Ichi Forever (FuPeg x Really Excellent) mares have produced a pair of winners from Unbridled stallinos (Wheelaway and Broken Vow). Either of those two, plus any other Unbridled-line stallions, might be appealing and offer some rather interesting inbreeding to Mr. Prospsector. Broken Vow, Niigon, Eddington, Harlington, etc. also give you at least some opportunity to transfer that form to the turf.

The second approach involves looking at stallions like Five Circles, Midnightconfession, Gothic Dream-Fading Dreams-End Result, etc. Some of those are cheaper than others, and but they're all viable options here.

Nikki Everdeen · Post by **Nikki Everdeen** » 17 years ago

Since I own Teton Forest, of course I'd LOVE to see a FuPeg mare bred to him, and she has a nice pedigree. However, I've taken to thinking of Teton as more of a sprint sire, especially since that's what he did in real life. The FuPegs in the SIM are confusing me a bit myself, as I own two of his mares, and still haven't decided who to send them to, either, so I can't be much help. However, I'm glad that you took a look at Teton, and please keep him and my other stallions in mind in the future!

Matt Woolfolk · Post by **Matt Woolfolk** » 17 years ago

Thanks guys. I like the idea of Wheelaway. He has some promising runners on the ground, and he fits my price bracket. Gothic Dream is just too pricey for me at the time.

Thanks for your help.

And Nikki, Teton has a boy running in a stake at CD this weekend. Lost in the Forest is in the Matt Winn ( he's my lil sprinter boy). You should check him out.

Nikki Everdeen · Post by **Nikki Everdeen** » 17 years ago

Good luck with your colt in the stakes race! I have all of my stallions' offspring on my Alerts, so I keep track of them all already.