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Although I was really hoping to be able to buy a filly (I had several as targets) they got way out of my price range rather quickly. I could not be happier with my buy. Ive been hanging out with Ben and I have really high hopes for him. I think my first ever auction has some big potential!
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You know, I've had an ongoing conversation with another person who was interested in the filly I won at the auction, and it got me thinking about why this hasn't happened in the SIM.
Partnerships.
Would it be even remotely feasible for two folks to sort of "go in" together on a particular horse, split the prize money, breeding, etc.? This happens with I'd almost say a majority of horses in the real world; I'm just wondering if this is even a remotely realistic idea in our world. I'd love to hear some thoughts.
Partnerships.
Would it be even remotely feasible for two folks to sort of "go in" together on a particular horse, split the prize money, breeding, etc.? This happens with I'd almost say a majority of horses in the real world; I'm just wondering if this is even a remotely realistic idea in our world. I'd love to hear some thoughts.
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That sounds very intresting, if were getting poly tracks then that would be maybe something to talk to Em aboutJ Slotman wrote: You know, I've had an ongoing conversation with another person who was interested in the filly I won at the auction, and it got me thinking about why this hasn't happened in the SIM.
Partnerships.
Would it be even remotely feasible for two folks to sort of "go in" together on a particular horse, split the prize money, breeding, etc.? This happens with I'd almost say a majority of horses in the real world; I'm just wondering if this is even a remotely realistic idea in our world. I'd love to hear some thoughts.
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Well, with retired mares, you can "partner" on them - one player gets the Year 18 breeding, one the Year 19 breeding. But, it requires a certain amount of trust - will the other player send the mare back to you when required? I also don't know how infertility is being handled. Does the one player get Year 18 and Year 20 and you're out of luck on Year 19? Or does your breeding get pushed back to Year 20? It's something to consider when deciding whether to go into a partnership - the more "what ifs" you have ironed out beforehand, the better.
As for racehorses, I haven't a clue as to how that would be managed. Do you swap ownership after every race? Who decides where the horse runs next? What if there is a disagreement? What if your co-owner forgets to ship the horse before the race, or uses different equipment, or decides to run the horse at a distance/surface you don't like, or decides to throw the horse in over his/her head in an effort to get a big filler check? Again, like in the broodmare situation, do you trust that player to ship the horse back? I mean, with the private offer, the tools are already in place to run a horse in "partnership" if you want to switch the horse back and forth after every race, but I think there are a lot of logistical problems, and if you and the partner aren't in synch, could be a real problem (which isn't the Steward's job to resolve). I don't know any way to split the earnings 50/50 without involving the Steward, so I doubt that would be feasible, for exactly that reason.
Not saying it can't be done, in some form or fashion, using the tools right now, but I think a true 50/50, where two players are listed as owner and split earnings down the middle, would be tough to administer, and could lead to a lot of headaches if the partnership subsequently goes south, as a bad partner can really * things up for the other one. I run some horses in partnership in another simulated horse racing game (we share a common password, and have worked out rules as to decisions as to where to run), and it takes a tremendous amount of trust and communication to work as it should. In light of that, I'd be extremely hesitant to try it here, even if it were added as a tool.
As for racehorses, I haven't a clue as to how that would be managed. Do you swap ownership after every race? Who decides where the horse runs next? What if there is a disagreement? What if your co-owner forgets to ship the horse before the race, or uses different equipment, or decides to run the horse at a distance/surface you don't like, or decides to throw the horse in over his/her head in an effort to get a big filler check? Again, like in the broodmare situation, do you trust that player to ship the horse back? I mean, with the private offer, the tools are already in place to run a horse in "partnership" if you want to switch the horse back and forth after every race, but I think there are a lot of logistical problems, and if you and the partner aren't in synch, could be a real problem (which isn't the Steward's job to resolve). I don't know any way to split the earnings 50/50 without involving the Steward, so I doubt that would be feasible, for exactly that reason.
Not saying it can't be done, in some form or fashion, using the tools right now, but I think a true 50/50, where two players are listed as owner and split earnings down the middle, would be tough to administer, and could lead to a lot of headaches if the partnership subsequently goes south, as a bad partner can really * things up for the other one. I run some horses in partnership in another simulated horse racing game (we share a common password, and have worked out rules as to decisions as to where to run), and it takes a tremendous amount of trust and communication to work as it should. In light of that, I'd be extremely hesitant to try it here, even if it were added as a tool.
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I appreciate your perspective, Laura. I was thinking of a situation where one would run the horse in one person's name, then split the proceeds from racing all the way through the breeding shed. The only problem I would foresee is how to actually transfer the money from one person to another in the current SIM without involving the Steward herself. That certainly would not be the greatest of burdens to place upon the Steward.
I'm just speaking in pure conjecture here incidentally as I sincerely doubt the person who was interested in my filly would actually concur with my thoughts on the issue. I am just throwing this out there for thoughts from all.
I'm just speaking in pure conjecture here incidentally as I sincerely doubt the person who was interested in my filly would actually concur with my thoughts on the issue. I am just throwing this out there for thoughts from all.
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I snagged A Heart Unwavering. Nothing else intrigued me that would be in my price range. I own her 1/2 sister (Fortimes we shared) and she's 2-1-1-0 so She's looking good. Had to pay 452,000, but then re-couped it later by selling L'Artiste in the Chat room.
The chat room auction ROCKED! We should have more of them! LOL
The chat room auction ROCKED! We should have more of them! LOL
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Eric and I went in together on Fated by Stars, but that was after she was retired. Piece of the Moon is also owned jointly.
And I had SO MUCH FUN at the chat auction! While I was auctioneer, I sold a total of 21 horses for $3,370,500 from the stock of at least half a dozen owners. The auction topper was Ziegfeld Girl, a yearling filly by Star Studded, and the second highest bid was for L'artiste, a Storm Cat yearling filly. The lowest bid went for $6,000 for Yonaguskye in a special "low bankroll" auction. There were a couple of horses sold after I gave up as auctioneer but unfortunately I didn't keep track of those.
We're planning another auction for the next results night, so if you have anything you want to sell show up! We sold everything from yearlings to broodmares to stallions to racers to a breeding for a foal from a mare. Even if you can't afford to buy and have nothing to sell, it's a lot of fun to watch and a good way to learn bloodlines.
And I had SO MUCH FUN at the chat auction! While I was auctioneer, I sold a total of 21 horses for $3,370,500 from the stock of at least half a dozen owners. The auction topper was Ziegfeld Girl, a yearling filly by Star Studded, and the second highest bid was for L'artiste, a Storm Cat yearling filly. The lowest bid went for $6,000 for Yonaguskye in a special "low bankroll" auction. There were a couple of horses sold after I gave up as auctioneer but unfortunately I didn't keep track of those.
We're planning another auction for the next results night, so if you have anything you want to sell show up! We sold everything from yearlings to broodmares to stallions to racers to a breeding for a foal from a mare. Even if you can't afford to buy and have nothing to sell, it's a lot of fun to watch and a good way to learn bloodlines.
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I'd love to participate but I'm never awake for results night. And I have a couple of horses I'd definitely be willing to put up for auction (as well as bid!). Are there any other times you guys would want to do them? The problem is that I have such a weird schedule, with school and working two jobs. But if I knew ahead of time I could let someone know when I'd be available. Once basketball and hockey end, I'll JUST be depending on the days I'll be working the baseball games.
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