Training Advice

S.C. Burns · Post by **S.C. Burns** » 17 years ago

My only concern with racing in a Stakes race (even a G3) is that in his previous experience with those races, he's never won...placed and showed yes, but never a win. If he was coming off a win at Belmont, I'd greenlight him for a Stakes but like someone else said earlier, even showing can kill some horses' confidence.

With an allowance, you may not get as much money or points, but you'll definitely increase your chances of a win, which in the long run would (I think) be better. Honestly, a loss at this point could ruin him.

Carolyn Eaton · Post by **Carolyn Eaton** » 17 years ago

I have a lot of decent horses, but only one fabulous one, Pinafore. I haven't raced her in anything but stakes since her maiden win, and she has only finished off the board once (in Dubai - I discovered she doesn't like to ship any distance...). My general theory is - if I don't see a race I like for her in the week I want her to run, I sponsor it. If the horse can pick up a check in a stakes - I run them in stakes, if they start going Off the board, then I back them down to allowance level.

As to your fella - Mountaineer also has a nice stakes coming up...

Tasha Langley · Post by **Tasha Langley** » 17 years ago

I'm running my mare Singlikeyourealone this week in an allowance race, mostly because I couldn't find anything else that suited her, but also to keep her fresh. I also ran Alone in My Dreams in an allowance earlier this year. It's not because they can't hang with the best of them.... Those two could arguably be the two best horses in my stable. It's simply to keep them fresh when there's nothing else around. I don't mind running in allowance races with any of my horses. It's absolutely not claiming your horse can't run in stakes.

Scott Eiland · Post by **Scott Eiland** » 17 years ago

Thank you very much everybody who responded. I do appreciate your honest feelings on the subject and will take all options into account.

I'm going to keep Worth The Effort in three year old company for his next race. After that, we'll see.

I'm in between West Virginia and Pennsylvania, depending on the field for each. It should work out ok

Rob Canterbury · Post by **Rob Canterbury** » 17 years ago

who is this scott guy? must be a newbie.. Hey would you like a free horse?? I am sure you don't have anything of quality in your barn...... shoot me a pm I have soemthing really special for you!

Scott Eiland · Post by **Scott Eiland** » 17 years ago

Rob Kilbourn wrote: who is this scott guy? must be a newbie.. Hey would you like a free horse?? I am sure you don't have anything of quality in your barn...... shoot me a pm I have soemthing really special for you!

SOMEONE wants to be PROMINENTLY INVOLVED in the next fake forum thread

Jolene Danner · Post by **Jolene Danner** » 17 years ago

Scott Eiland wrote:
Rob Kilbourn wrote: who is this scott guy? must be a newbie.. Hey would you like a free horse?? I am sure you don't have anything of quality in your barn...... shoot me a pm I have soemthing really special for you!
SOMEONE wants to be PROMINENTLY INVOLVED in the next fake forum thread

It is weird to see Scott and not Randall... Did you ever consider getting your real named changed instead of your SIM name???

Dave Shields · Post by **Dave Shields** » 17 years ago

JoleneD wrote:
Scott Eiland wrote:
Rob Kilbourn wrote: who is this scott guy? must be a newbie.. Hey would you like a free horse?? I am sure you don't have anything of quality in your barn...... shoot me a pm I have soemthing really special for you!
SOMEONE wants to be PROMINENTLY INVOLVED in the next fake forum thread
It is weird to see Scott and not Randall... Did you ever consider getting your real named changed instead of your SIM name???

I dunno, "Beam me up Randall" just doesn't have the same ring to it...

*So sorry, I just couldn't resist...

Matt Woolfolk · Post by **Matt Woolfolk** » 17 years ago

Scott, you will always be Randall. Randall will follow you like a ... I can't think of anything witty to put there. Maybe Randall will follow you like my 3yo crop, minus Paterno, follows everyone else's horses around the track.

Ara Davies · Post by **Ara Davies** » 17 years ago

I am going to take a dry-erase marker and scribble out "Scott" on every one of your posts on my monitor and put "Randall" instead.

I'm not sure how scrolling will work with that, though.

Matty Dubs · Post by **Matty Dubs** » 17 years ago

All I know is that Randall's Ramblings flows better than Scott's Ramblings. What will it be now? Scott's Scatter Brained Thoughts? More importantly, did you go by Randall Graves to avoid inevitable comparisons to Scott Weiland? And if Scott Eiland is just another alias for Scott Weiland, will STP ever get back together?

Ara Davies · Post by **Ara Davies** » 17 years ago

That gave me a brilliant idea.

Meet Eilean Mor, a gray filly by Comet out of Symbolic Asset, by Symbol. She's a half to a recent two year old stakes winner.

Her name is an island in Scotland. Get it, Scot Island? Ahahahahahahahaha

hehehehe

uh yeah

(I was originally going to name her "Scot Island" but I figured you might not want a girl sharing what's pretty much your name, so there you have it.)

Scott Eiland · Post by **Scott Eiland** » 17 years ago

In less than a day, my friends the simsters have dragged out every single silly nickname i ever dealt with:

- Scott Weiland, who I wouldn't know if I ran him over.

- Scotty from Star Trek, who I hate because if I hear BEAM ME UP one more time I am going to SNAP

- Scotty Too Hotty the wrestler who's ambiguously....not straight.

- being called "Long" or "No Man Is A" by Chris Berman wannabes trying to be funny.

I STILL hated using Randall enough to make the switch okay.

Ara Davies · Post by **Ara Davies** » 17 years ago

HEY I NAMED A HORSE AFTER YOU AND IT WASN'T ONE OF THOSE STUPID NICKNAMES, OKAY

I MEAN SERIOUSLY I BET NOBODY EVER CALLED YOU "EILEAN MOR" BEFORE HUH

Emily Mitchell · Post by **Emily Mitchell** » 17 years ago

hehe when I see your name I kind of all blur it together and say... Scottie Land

Of course... I have no idea if that's even the right way to say your last name.