State Bred Stakes

Joel Smith · Post by **Joel Smith** » 16 years ago

i was wondering why there is not more races in some of the less popular states such as pa and va on why there is not more races strickly for horses bred in those state bc i think it would be a good idea to help generate some interest in some of the less main streem stallions which will help the breeders get some mares for there stallions but it was just a idea

Carolyn Eaton · Post by **Carolyn Eaton** » 16 years ago

I would love to see Texas bred stakes (especially since we now have a full circuit). In RL there are a lot of dirt sprints for TX breds, so I've been thinking of moving Pico & Kafwain to the Texas farm...

Nikki Everdeen · Post by **Nikki Everdeen** » 16 years ago

There used to be alot of PA- and VA-bred races, but there weren't enough horses to accomodate the races. That's why stallion owners need to really consider where their stallions are standing. I moved Medallist and Scottish Halo to Pennsylvania, because I would REALLY like to see more PA-bred races. If it gets better, I may even move Desert Victory there. I know in real life the PA-bred races are starting to become much more important because the purses are skyrocketing due to slots. Also, there used to only really be PA-bred sprint races, but now with Smarty Jones and Hard Spun being PA-breds, there are a few routes on dirt too. There is even a PA-bred steeplechase stakes race, which is the only one in the country!

Laura Smith · Post by **Laura Smith** » 16 years ago

I know I've said this before, but soon I'm moving everything I have to Canada. Canadian-breds are cool. I'd love to see more state-bred races of various sorts, once we have the horses to fill them.

Ronnie Dee · Post by **Ronnie Dee** » 16 years ago

Laura Smith wrote:I know I've said this before, but soon I'm moving everything I have to Canada. Canadian-breds are cool. I'd love to see more state-bred races of various sorts, once we have the horses to fill them.

Hopefully, the Steward will give the Canadian Triple Crown races back to Canadian bred horses. In real life, the Canadian Triple Crown races are restricted to Canadian bred horses.

It would also be nice to have a Canadian race series for 2 year old fillies and another for 2 year old colts/geldings. It could be modeled after the (real life) Florida Stallion stakes series. I think adding race series like this would really stimulate breeding in Canada.

Currently, the Loonie (Canadian dollar) is now about equal to the US dollar so you will not have to use a calculator to compute your winnings in terms of US dollars.

Laura Smith · Post by **Laura Smith** » 16 years ago

I <3 the exchange rate now.

That is all.

Joel Smith · Post by **Joel Smith** » 16 years ago

i will help support even a canada thing if they have some turf sprints or miles races to fit what my stallion pacify is producing i just think a few of us need to get together and breed some horses just for state bred races so we can sepparate from the huge money that it takes to produce the horses to win the great big stakes like they have in europe and the triple crown those would be awsome to win but it is also unrealistic to think you can out produce people that are vet and have 300 foals a year but if you wee to have some state bred races you can realistcly produce horses that have a shot to win those stakes even if it is just for 500k worth of stakes split bettween 2 and 3yrold it would be worth it just to see one of my baby's win a stakes

Eric Nalbone · Post by **Eric Nalbone** » 16 years ago

Remember, its very difficult for the Steward to support state programs by adding races without horses to support them! There used to be a whole lot more MD, PA, TX, etc. races, but they never filled and just got cancelled. Adding all those races to just see them cancelled is a waste of everyone's time.

The Florida, New York, and California races are well-supported, but that is due in LARGE part to the support that MAJOR owners iive these states. I know that I love New York-bred races because they've historically been just a SHOWCASE for horses by my stallions. Susie and Laura also have a number of horses siring NY-bred winners, but the big point is that between the three of us (sorry if I left someone out!), we manage to pool the offspring of some 30ish stallions who all sire generally the same type of horse (dirt runners at various distances).

The same thing happens in Florida and California, with two or three MAJOR owners of BIG TIME stallions putting their horses in the state. I kind of think that more state-bred races might be the kind of thing that SIM breeders have to create the demand for before the Steward will start supplying those races again. Unfortuantely, that would mean moving stallions OUT of areas with developed state-bred programs. Kind of a tough thing to do perhaps?

Carolyn Eaton · Post by **Carolyn Eaton** » 16 years ago

Well, I think I'll start off by moving my little dirt stallion band to Texas, then in a couple of years I'll sponsor some Texas bred dirt stakes for 2yo's, then 2 & 3, etc. So about this time in '08, we'll have a Texas Stallion series for 2yo's!.