Steward-breds

[David Faulkner]

So what would everyone's recommendation be about me leasing mares from other players. They don't get to race the foal, or they do? If I'm willing to pay $5 million for a Steward's Cup winner who has produced 2 freaks, but not willing to pay more than $1 million for a generic Grade 1 winner, how do I stop the "that's not fair" ness? If we rely on people leasing me mares for free, that would be what, 2 people a year? How will I replenish my own stock?

I think it is good that you rent for $ 5M the mare that you think is fair at that price, and that if the lease is for a lower amount it is fine, I think you can ask for the $ 5M foal to be returned according to your achievements oh no, and leave the lesser colt to the landlord, whatever happens to him in his career

The problem is that only a group of players has the best bellies, to make leases, and it is the same patron of all years, there is the drama, that only they have that privilege, and profits, while the other players are the devil takes them

Now if each stable had a quality mare that could be rented from time to time by you, there another rooster would sing, there would be a balance

I think I should do an auction of mares according to the taste of each player DR, DM, DS, TR, TM, TS, AWR, AWM, AWS all with the same quality Blue Hen Very Sound

to $ 500k to each active player that is constant
that you send a message about which mare you would like to buy according to your taste, you would create it and send it to all the players

and everyone will have a quality mare in their stable to rent to you whenever you want, and there would be an availability for the smaller stables.

and that he continues to lease the mares that you want to rent from other players, and give him the colt to run, and that it be returned to you, after his career ends, in this case to the mares

but an adjustment needs to be made on the issue of having some quality in the stables

oh better give each stable a quality mare, if you do not rent it, the owner will have the opportunity to get something good that later you can rent in the future

It's like restarting the system to be from scratch, at some point in the game

We would all have something of quality in our stables, there is no need to complain

[Kent Saunders]

I can't honestly remember hearing about "pricing Issues" in regards to selling mares to the Steward or leasing them (not an issue for me). The 2 issues I can recall were players racing the foals when there were no limits (thereby having "Extra SB's) (solve that by including that horse as part of whatever limit get decided) and that the same players were consistently getting the "Opportunities" to sell/lease mares (limit how many can be transacted to 1 per season per player). As Lily pointed out, there are most likely alot of smaller stables that would be tickled/honored to have the Steward knocking on their door to lease a mare.

[LA Pepper]

how about this : anyone who leases a mare to the steward must also adopt a cat/kitten from her rescue.

[The Steward]

how about this : anyone who leases a mare to the steward must also adopt a cat/kitten from her rescue.

SOLD!!!!!!!

[Dave Trainer]

One suggestion would be to have a small separate lease auction of some foal/yearling fillies so players would race them then they would return to you after they have raced 2 or 3 years so you could breed them. I know that doesn't answer your question bout how to replenish your stock in the near future but it would help going forward.

As for the "that's not fair" of what you pay that is between you and the owner and depends on how much you want the mare and what they are willing to sell for. That is just like any other deal between 2 players (except you can afford any amount and most of us can't lol) Not everything is "fair" and we as players will always disagree about values of horses.

Imo they shouldn't get to lease the foal though, that should be factored into the price you pay. As I said above do a lease auction for those. If you pay someone 5m to lease a mare they could always bid in the auction to lease the foal to race

Sorry but this idea is Horrendous. If I lease a mare to the Steward then I 100 percent should get to race the foal. The foal can count against a yearly Steward-bred quota that is fine but to have the foal auctioned so someone else can race them is absurd. Honestly the likelihood of another owner campaigning a horse better than the person leasing the dam is probably slim to none. Plus the owner that leases their dam is doing the Sim community a favor because they are allowing everyone else a chance at purchasing their bloodlines at a later time. Your idea also removes another critical aspect of leasing which is the owner gets to breed the 1st foal before they return the filly to the Steward.

Here is what I would suggest:

1. Standard lease price between 2-5M.

2. Dam owner races the filly through her 4 yo season.(1 yr longer than current leases but allows the Steward to have mares with higher earnings and owners to lease cheaper. Plus the owner gets one more season of the thrill of racing which is what the game is really about)

3. Owner breeds 1st foal and returns to Steward.

Anything less than those minimums won't result in the Steward getting many of the higher quality mare leases. Even with these conditions leases may be difficult. Leases have to be a win/win for all parties involved

Why is it absurd? You're getting paid for the mare. If any player leases a mare from you do you get to race the foal? Of course not.
Do you get to breed the first foal? Of course not.

[Cleo Patra]

Dave, I usually make a first or second foal part of every swap or lease deal I do. Especially swaps. That way one person isn’t upset if their filly is crud and the other one is awesome and they don’t entirely lose that part of the family.

[Jack Meyer]

I was wondering why we would put a limit on how many mares The Steward is able to buy/lease from any one player....I didn't see an explanation and was wondering what the reasoning was for the suggestion....I might have overlooked the reasoning too....it's been done before.

Jack

[Rochelle Bos]

I was wondering why we would put a limit on how many mares The Steward is able to buy/lease from any one player....I didn't see an explanation and was wondering what the reasoning was for the suggestion....I might have overlooked the reasoning too....it's been done before.

Jack

Well, if the max stewie limit was set at 2 (which I’ve come to like, especially if The Steward only breeds 150ish foals vs the 250ish now) then she wouldn’t be able to lease more than 2 mares from a player in one year anyway.

Also, I’m not sure there would be a huge benefit for someone to lease two mares vs leasing 1 and buying a Stewie they can keep...

[Ronnie Dee]

how about this : anyone who leases a mare to the steward must also adopt a cat/kitten from her rescue.

SOLD!!!!!!!

Recently, I found out that "Community Cats" are an adoption option.
See https://animalfoundation.com/get-pet-he ... unity-cats

[Mr. Lord Rich]

I was wondering why we would put a limit on how many mares The Steward is able to buy/lease from any one player....I didn't see an explanation and was wondering what the reasoning was for the suggestion....I might have overlooked the reasoning too....it's been done before.

Jack

because then certain players could be running 5 stewardbreds from the same crop while others are not able to since they were not able to lease mares to the steward.

[Gigi Gofaster]

I was wondering why we would put a limit on how many mares The Steward is able to buy/lease from any one player....I didn't see an explanation and was wondering what the reasoning was for the suggestion....I might have overlooked the reasoning too....it's been done before.

Jack

because then certain players could be running 5 stewardbreds from the same crop while others are not able to since they were not able to lease mares to the steward.

I’m not sure I understand - but I may have missed something. How would the steward leasing 5 mares from one player mean she couldn’t lease any from another?

[Mr. Lord Rich]

I was wondering why we would put a limit on how many mares The Steward is able to buy/lease from any one player....I didn't see an explanation and was wondering what the reasoning was for the suggestion....I might have overlooked the reasoning too....it's been done before.

Jack

because then certain players could be running 5 stewardbreds from the same crop while others are not able to since they were not able to lease mares to the steward.

I’m not sure I understand - but I may have missed something. How would the steward leasing 5 mares from one player mean she couldn’t lease any from another?

It doesn’t but if other players don’t have mares to lease the steward, then the ones that do have advantage over the others.

Don’t get me wrong, I am the type of player that could lease the steward multiple mares in one season so this rule really helps the smaller stables that don’t have that luxury.

Also means less stewardbreds to have to race against. More chances for our homebreds.

[Andrew James]

Limit of 2 per year up to 5 year olds, leases count towards that total. I like everything about that. Also like the suggestion to race mares until they are done their 4 year old season.

[Gigi Gofaster]

because then certain players could be running 5 stewardbreds from the same crop while others are not able to since they were not able to lease mares to the steward.

I’m not sure I understand - but I may have missed something. How would the steward leasing 5 mares from one player mean she couldn’t lease any from another?

It doesn’t but if other players don’t have mares to lease the steward, then the ones that do have advantage over the others.

Don’t get me wrong, I am the type of player that could lease the steward multiple mares in one season so this rule really helps the smaller stables that don’t have that luxury.

Also means less stewardbreds to have to race against. More chances for our homebreds.

Well, I’m not sure I would agree that having mares of the quality that the steward would lease is a luxury. I would imagine that most of them came at considerable cost, whether that be investment in high quality dam lines, mare leases, stud fees and so on, and a lot of hours of game sweat too. Sure, some may just land in one’s lap, but most are the result of a lot of time and simbux in their development. In which case, isn’t a potential steward lease part of the incentive to make that investment? Honestly the mare leases I’ve had (and there aren’t many), where I’ve gotten to race the filly foals and get first foal, haven’t resulted in much (or in some cases any) advantage for me, so maybe I’m just jealous.

I guess I’m struggling too with how level the playing field should be, and how to manage the balance between the incentive of success as a factor in staying in the game (especially for new members) and the incentive of the sweet taste of hard earned success. Honestly, if I had joined the game and had less to work for and aspire to, I don’t think I would have stayed. But I get not everyone joins with that approach or relishes like I do in the persistence and strategy that the game requires to become a ‘big stable’. So somehow a balance needs to be struck, and wherever it lands I’ll work with it.

[LA Pepper]

We have too many stewardbreds. The game is horseracing, not 'everyday is Christmas'. We currently have 715 owners listed. I we get 250 stewbreds a year and they run an average of three years, there are an awful lot of stewbreds running around. I'm finding one in almost every stakes race I look at. They should be an occasional but important part of the game to help keep and improve bloodlines in the HOMEBRED sector. It should be an honor and not a right of being in this game to have one.