Stawickery Stables Paint Studs Update...Refunds for stakes winning/producing mares

[Tammy Stawicki]

Having just picked up two new paint stallions in the recent Steward Auction I felt it was a good time to plug the gang. So here goes.

Note for most nicking data I am talking about mares that usually give a mix of A+/A nicks, so I think the A+ nicks are meaningful and not just the mare I used nicks A+ with everything. I will put asterisks when that is not the case and explain below.

Paint Sprinter - Bred by Me
Lecythus - stud fee $10,000 maybe versatile
Steward's Cup winning earner of over $900,000. By holiday sire Mr. Rose Thorn out of millionaire Steward's Cup winner Acanthus. Also a 1/2 to 5 stakes winners. He can A+ nicks with sprint mares. He was additionally rated as "versatile" and can A nick with better mares of other distances* and has one winner at 870 yards (in addition to his more plentiful sprint winners). I feel like he's starting to come into his own as a stallion with 6 stakes winners, 2 being graded stakes winners in 3 crops of racing age. I'm particularly excited by his currently undefeated 2yo Ramon y Cajal . You can read more about his race record and pedigree here: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=54394&p=453840#p453840. He is very sound.

Paint Mid - Bred by Me
Jacinth - stud fee $12,000
He was also a Steward's Cup winner with a nice pedigree with his second dam being millionaire Steward's Cup winner/producer Synchrony. He can get A+ nicks with middle distance mares and has sired 7 stakes winners including 4 graded stakes winners. His daughter Odia won the Steward's Cup at 2 and finished 2nd her 3yo year. You can read my post on him here: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=52665. He is very sound.

Paint Mid - From New Mixer Auction
Corona Wagon Train - stud fee $18,000 maybe all three distances?
Livewires Turnpike - stud fee $16,000 maybe sprint ability also?

Both these boys were marked as paint mid stallions when I purchased them, and both nick at A+ with paint mid mares. I found Livewires Turnpike could nick A with route mares** and A+ with sprint mares. Corona Wagon Train A+ nicked with mares in all 3 divisions**. While Jacinth nicks comparably to mid mares as these new stallions he gets a B+ nick with the sprint mare I used. So I think there may be some multidistance potential and maybe some sprint ability as well. Corona Wagon Train is very sound. Livewires Turnpike is somewhat unsound. I set Corona Wagon Train at a slightly higher stud fee to start given the better soundness rating and A+ nicks across divisions. As with all my stallions I always keep 1/2 an eye on interest and what they are producing and may make stud fee adjustments accordingly at any time.

Stud Fee Refunds
For all 4 stallions I will offer a full stud fee refund for graded stakes winning/producing mares and a 50% stud fee for graded stakes winning/producing mares. To start I am limiting this to 5 refunds/person for the two mixer auction stallions (the 5 counts for both stallions combined not each individually) until I get a feel for how much interest there is in them. For now, there are no limits on refunds to Jacinth or Lecythus. If you would like to get a refund just lease me a horse for what you are owed and tell me why you are leasing me said horse. I will lease it to get you your money then immediately terminate. Also please note by stakes winner/producer I am referring to horses that won stakes races, not stakes gallop comments.

As always let me know if you have any questions.

*I have gotten a mix of A/A- nicks from middle-distance mares with Lecythus. The A's come from the better mares with the A-'s coming from mares that usually nick A+/A within their division. I do not know the quality of mare the A route nicks come from as I haven't done them myself

**I do not own route mares so for the route nicks I just took one of Jo Ferris's mares that they mentioned had A+ nicks with one of their stallions. I have since learned this mare is the sort of mare that regularly nicks A+ with route stallions.

[Jo Ferris]

Both Livewire Turnpike and Corona Wagon Train nicked the same with the mares I tested:
FLD Ruby (Mid) - A+ (that's her normal)
Free Prision Flight (Sprint) - A (her normal as well, only has 1 A+ nick)
Keep Your Silver (Route) - A (her normal is A+)

Was the mare you checked FLD Tootsie? Trying to think who it is, I don't nick many and my main router that I used for nicks pensioned last year. If it is her she's definitely an A+ girl with the top routers

[Tammy Stawicki]

I played around some more with hypos.

FLD tootsie was indeed the mare that got the A+ with Corona. I went back and hypo'd her with Livewires Turnpike as well and that was only an A hypo. So perhaps Corona is slightly better than Livewire there but its seems the A+ was probably more the mare than him.

I also realized I missed up somewhere along the line with my sprint hypos and switched sprint mares I was using for my hypos. So Corona was hypoed with Kinsella who usually gets a mix of A+/A hypos with sprint stallions. Livewire was hypoed with Kindle who has only ever gotten A hypos. I need to come up with more unique names for my horses. I went back and hypod Livewire with Kinsella and that was an A+ as well. So I am guessing the two have comparable abilities with sprinters. Kinsella hypos A with Jersey and B+ with Jacinth so I think that she can hypo A+ with these two suggests they have some sprinting promise.

I'm going to edit the original post with the new hypo information. I've also decided to adjust Livewires stud fee up a nudge given he may have more multidistance ability than I thought and Corona's down a nudge given he's not as unique in multidistance ability as I thought.

[Tammy Stawicki]

Closer to the end of the year I'll have a new breed my stallions post that updates all this information. But as a quick FYI for early breeders here is what I'm seeing in early gallops from the new stallions

Corona Wagon Train had a range of gallops. One thing that stood out to me is all the router mares bred to him had lower-level gallops with the allowance gallopers all being out of sprint and middle-distance mares. For that reason it's not clear to me that he wants to be a route sire and I have unchecked router from his horse types.

Livewire Turnpike while not getting any stakes or higher gallops had a very impressive number of allowance gallopers out of total foals and at least so far nothing worse than productive. He primarily got mid mares, but of the 2 sprint mares he saw one offspring was productive and one allowance.

While both look solid but not set the world on fire as sires I decided to bring their stud fees down some to $12,000 each for now.

In some other exciting gallop news of the 30 Jacinth yearlings that have galloped 3 were stakes gallopers (of course none of mine )