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Kaine Saracen
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Re: Hall of fame

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Arthur Cutler wrote: 2 months ago
Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago I plan on voting but once again, Cathay Williams has been denied. Does anybody here have an idea why? Over 3 million in earning and 3 consecutive Stewards Cup wins and 3 consecutive Simmy awards.
She has fallin through the cracks thats for sure...Without a doubt she should be IN the HOF by now and definitely should be nominated
I feel like Nightmarch missed the boat as well, been retired since year 50. Guess he isn't good enough despite:
Nine G1's including a Dubai Turf at 4(ran 3rd as a 5 & 6yo), Arc at 6 (4th and 3rd as a 4&5yo), three consecutive Prince of England stakes. Earned over $9.2m. Only finished outside the top 5 once even though he ran in 20 G1's in his 26 starts.
Sired several millionaires including 8xG1 winner (including Dubai turf and Saudi Trophy) and $8m earner Artilleryman

Pretty sure those stats are at the least competitive with what is currently nominated.

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I was wondering how we should be voting purely racing record or should we be putting toward progeny as well ?
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Joseph Depaulo wrote: 2 months ago I was wondering how we should be voting purely racing record or should we be putting toward progeny as well ?
I think a bit of everything. If you get a couple who’ve earned similar purses, the progeny earnings can tip the balance for me. I like to see a well rounded horse.
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Arthur Cutler wrote: 2 months ago
Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago I plan on voting but once again, Cathay Williams has been denied. Does anybody here have an idea why? Over 3 million in earning and 3 consecutive Stewards Cup wins and 3 consecutive Simmy awards.
She has fallin through the cracks thats for sure...Without a doubt she should be IN the HOF by now and definitely should be nominated
How many fillies won that race 3 times? Just curious
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To solve the hall of fame problem it may be best to vote on those who are interested and been around for awhile. Like a small committee
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Anthony Zappulla wrote: 2 months ago
Arthur Cutler wrote: 2 months ago
Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago I plan on voting but once again, Cathay Williams has been denied. Does anybody here have an idea why? Over 3 million in earning and 3 consecutive Stewards Cup wins and 3 consecutive Simmy awards.
She has fallin through the cracks thats for sure...Without a doubt she should be IN the HOF by now and definitely should be nominated
How many fillies won that race 3 times? Just curious
Just Cathay Williams. Nobody else.
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Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago
Anthony Zappulla wrote: 2 months ago
Arthur Cutler wrote: 2 months ago
She has fallin through the cracks thats for sure...Without a doubt she should be IN the HOF by now and definitely should be nominated
How many fillies won that race 3 times? Just curious
Just Cathay Williams. Nobody else.
Definitely well deseved
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Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago
Anthony Zappulla wrote: 2 months ago
Arthur Cutler wrote: 2 months ago
She has fallin through the cracks thats for sure...Without a doubt she should be IN the HOF by now and definitely should be nominated
How many fillies won that race 3 times? Just curious
Just Cathay Williams. Nobody else.
Wrong. Flizans Danielle, https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=940298 has won Steward Cup 3 times to. And has a higher earning than Cathay Williams.
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Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago
Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago
Anthony Zappulla wrote: 2 months ago
How many fillies won that race 3 times? Just curious
Just Cathay Williams. Nobody else.
Wrong. Flizans Danielle, https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=940298 has won Steward Cup 3 times to. And has a higher earning than Cathay Williams.
Isn't the 3 year olds only considered different? Like the 2 year old in other divisions?
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Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago
Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago
Anthony Zappulla wrote: 2 months ago
How many fillies won that race 3 times? Just curious
Just Cathay Williams. Nobody else.
Wrong. Flizans Danielle, https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=940298 has won Steward Cup 3 times to. And has a higher earning than Cathay Williams.
How is she wrong, looks like Flizans Danielle won it twice?
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Gavin Guile wrote: 2 months ago
Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago
Andrea Bouwkamp wrote: 2 months ago
Just Cathay Williams. Nobody else.
Wrong. Flizans Danielle, https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=940298 has won Steward Cup 3 times to. And has a higher earning than Cathay Williams.
How is she wrong, looks like Flizans Danielle won it twice?
Well, Flizans Danielle won Steward Cup 3 times. I thought that was the question? One time as a 3 y old, but you mean that doesn't count? If you go in to her profile, it says 3 times SC winner.
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Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago
Gavin Guile wrote: 2 months ago
Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago

Wrong. Flizans Danielle, https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=940298 has won Steward Cup 3 times to. And has a higher earning than Cathay Williams.
How is she wrong, looks like Flizans Danielle won it twice?
Well, Flizans Danielle won Steward Cup 3 times. I thought that was the question? One time as a 3 y old, but you mean that doesn't count? If you go in to her profile, it says 3 times SC winner.
Like there is classic and then there is juvenile. They are different, so your horse won 2 twice and juvenile winner which is still very nice accomplishment!!
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Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago
Gavin Guile wrote: 2 months ago
Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago

Wrong. Flizans Danielle, https://www.simhorseracing.com/horse.php?HorseID=940298 has won Steward Cup 3 times to. And has a higher earning than Cathay Williams.
How is she wrong, looks like Flizans Danielle won it twice?
Well, Flizans Danielle won Steward Cup 3 times. I thought that was the question? One time as a 3 y old, but you mean that doesn't count? If you go in to her profile, it says 3 times SC winner.
Well the question was how many fillies have won that race three times…your horse does have 3 Steward cups too but from two different races, Cathay Williams three are from the same race.
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Gavin Guile wrote: 2 months ago
Flizan Hambletonian wrote: 2 months ago
Gavin Guile wrote: 2 months ago

How is she wrong, looks like Flizans Danielle won it twice?
Well, Flizans Danielle won Steward Cup 3 times. I thought that was the question? One time as a 3 y old, but you mean that doesn't count? If you go in to her profile, it says 3 times SC winner.
Well the question was how many fillies have won that race three times…your horse does have 3 Steward cups too but from two different races, Cathay Williams three are from the same race.
Yes. What I looked at was the Distaff Chase. They actually only list two Steeplechase races and the Distaff Chase is right after all the Synthetic races.
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